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FreedomMan
"... yes only make your plan, and then another one ..." (that's Bert Brecht, in my free translation into English)

Wasn't a working plan to stop my thing after opening my last thread. There is no other chance than to open another one. Excuse me, please ... dry.gif

People, folks, guys, freaks, idiots or whatever you are to be or not to be,

can you image what a feeling that is: the man you've most admired in the whole Universe (yes, I confess, I've always been a Ray Manzarek fan much more than a Jim Morrison fan!) gives you his private, personal, individual thank you. Nothing more, it doesn't need anything more. Just the two simple words: thank you.

It feels great! It lets me forget the pain of doing a hard working job when writing my book.

Alll hale the American Night! This was one of my greatest (okay, I confess, here in Germany morning has broken, the blackbird has just spoken like the first bird on earth (sounds strange and rather rough!) wink.gif ), it's about 6.00 am now, and the crow people are just in order to leave their sleeping trees, also singing with their awfull noises - oh, I mean: voices). But I also want to tell you: it's been a hard day's night, too! A very hard day's night ... sad.gif

And now, people, after having received that great gesture by Raymond Manczarek and after beeing down on my knees and thanking god for that, well, I know might get ready, and You're standing at the Point of Know Return! If you want it, people, I'll do my thing, I'll give you the last kick and tell you the whole story. I can show you a photograph of the Lizard King alive and well and doing his job. But that photograph was not taken before July 3rd (or 4th?) 1971, it was taken in thear 1988, and I've been the photographer. And I can tell you the whole story behind, before and after that picture, if you want to know it.

But there's a warning: By telling my story, I might give you the hammer, the bomb, the greatzest power on earth, strong enough to destroy the whole bad thing, to bang down the greatest building that has ever been erected on earth, that anti-human Babylon Tower. By the way, do you know how an inhabitant of Babylon is called? Well, okay, that's too easy, sorry: a Baby, of course ... wink.gif

It won't be able to do it without some aeroplanes, but they are doing theier jobs peacefully now, not like at September 11th. I'm rather sure of that, I once had the chance to test it, and I'm alive and well.

But you're the ones who rule the world, you're the ones who have to decide - in a democratic voting - if you really want me to say my thing, to ring my "bell of freedom" and to enlighten the fire once more, the Morrison fire which I had to take care for for several years of him being absent and doing another job - or just resting a little bit from doing his great Job as the lead singer of The Doors.

Dave, can you agree to my request and could you manage such a kind of voting here in this forum? You might also start the same voting in the Robby Krieger's foruum and the Lizard Lounge, if you want, because a lot of people probably aren't present in every three forum places.

Okay, so I'll wait and see, and once more: I beg your pardon for breaking my word, never to start any new topic here. But I could not be aware of would should happen next, when I wrote down my anouncement.

Let's go on: love and peace to every human being in the world!

Kurt
Mary-Beth
sad.gif Hi Kurt,
just write what you want and the people who want to read it will. and the people who don;t want to read it won't and if Dave or management doesn't like what you wrote they will tell you and most likely delete it.....go ahead man, take your chances and spew....as far as anybody doing an organized vote on any of these bords at to what you are requesting.....I doubt it will happen.....so if there is really something you want to say or tell us.....go ahead....I'd like to hear it....and then i will make my own mind up as to my own beliefs on the subject as i am sure most otheres will.....so I will await your story.
wink.gif take Care and Peace,
M-B
FreedomMan
QUOTE(Mary-Beth @ Aug 5 2006, 10:21 PM) *

sad.gif Hi Kurt,
just write what you want and the people who want to read it will. and the people who don;t want to read it won't and if Dave or management doesn't like what you wrote they will tell you and most likely delete it.....go ahead man, take your chances and spew....as far as anybody doing an organized vote on any of these bords at to what you are requesting.....I doubt it will happen.....so if there is really something you want to say or tell us.....go ahead....I'd like to hear it....and then i will make my own mind up as to my own beliefs on the subject as i am sure most otheres will.....so I will await your story.
wink.gif take Care and Peace,
M-B


Hi Mary-Beth! Nice to see you again! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

You are right! Why should I bother Dave with this - he's doing a great job and has enough of work to do. So, I'll count your response as the first voting. It obviously is "pro".

Now, to everybody: please feel free to let me know your voting, too. But please: play fair and don't use double nicks!

At the end I'll count all the votings by myself and than accept the result. I'll tell you the whole crazy story (that might blow you away!), or I'll be quiet and then really finally end my "job" as being the "FreedomMan".

Is that okay, Dave? And all the others here?

Best

Kurt

P.s.: When posting your comments - please do remember that I'm a German and do have my problems to understand "too complicated" English sentences ... sleep.gif ... Thanks for paying attention to this!

[size=4]P.S.: important: the voting will end at 08.11., at about midnight in the L.A. time zone. There's a deeper reason for chosing this date ....
PK The First
So Freedom Man, you claim to have a photograph of Jim Morrison, alive, in 1988? Ok, put your money where your photograph is, and post the photo here by all means. You have my vote. And if you can prove to us that you have a photograph of THE Jim Morrison of The Doors from 1988, you can have the contents of my bank account as well. huh.gif

Good luck, you definately have my vote...

Daniel PK rolleyes.gif
Osiris
What's your motivation FreedomMan? I like a conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but you are starting to sound like another Brett Meisner.

However, go ahead with your plan - I think we're all curious (or at least in need of a good laugh).

Mary-Beth
QUOTE(Osiris @ Aug 6 2006, 01:01 PM) *

What's your motivation FreedomMan? I like a conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but you are starting to sound like another Brett Meisner.

However, go ahead with your plan - I think we're all curious (or at least in need of a good laugh).

smile.gif Hi guys and greetings O...very nice to see you here again I always enjoy your posts......
Can I as just a member of this great little family of forum members ask everybody in this thread to
do me a favor.....if you guys don;t mind......I would appreciate it.(and O please I am not singling you out...nveer my intention, I can just see the cars that may be travelling down the pike after yours...... wink.gif .....lets not belittle or offend Freedom Man or any other member for that matter.....I for one appreciate ALL the members and at this time when there is really nothing much going on it is nice to have a new topic to view as unusual as this one may seem....so lets give Freedom Man a chance here and wait and hear/see what he has to say........then we can come to our "own conclusions".....but lets be kind and courtious...honest...but respectful.....................
Thanks guys.......Peace...Truth...........and Freedom as JDM fought to preserve.
wink.gif Mary-Beth
PeaceFrog2
I vote yes as well.

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Osiris
QUOTE(Mary-Beth @ Aug 6 2006, 12:10 PM) *

smile.gif Hi guys and greetings O...very nice to see you here again I always enjoy your posts......
Can I as just a member of this great little family of forum members ask everybody in this thread to
do me a favor.....if you guys don;t mind......I would appreciate it.(and O please I am not singling you out...nveer my intention, I can just see the cars that may be travelling down the pike after yours...... wink.gif .....lets not belittle or offend Freedom Man or any other member for that matter.....I for one appreciate ALL the members and at this time when there is really nothing much going on it is nice to have a new topic to view as unusual as this one may seem....so lets give Freedom Man a chance here and wait and hear/see what he has to say........then we can come to our "own conclusions".....but lets be kind and courtious...honest...but respectful.....................
Thanks guys.......Peace...Truth...........and Freedom as JDM fought to preserve.
wink.gif Mary-Beth



Not meant to be taken offensively. biggrin.gif But history shows us that claims such as these are almost always fraudulent. But maybe this will be different. Maybe FM has a whole photo album filled with recent snapshots of Elvis, JFK and Hendrix. blink.gif

Once again, perhaps there is some truth to what Freedom Man is purporting. But this definitely falls into the category of "I'll believe it when I see it." Even then I think it'll take DNA evidence to prove this claim beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Regardless, I still am curious as to why FM would start a post such as this. What are his intentions? Why has he kept this quiet for so long? What gain does he stand to receive? I suppose that we'll find out on 8.12.06. cool.gif
Mary-Beth
QUOTE(Osiris @ Aug 6 2006, 02:25 PM) *

Not meant to be taken offensively. biggrin.gif But history shows us that claims such as these are almost always fraudulent. But maybe this will be different. Maybe FM has a whole photo album filled with recent snapshots of Elvis, JFK and Hendrix. blink.gif

Once again, perhaps there is some truth to what Freedom Man is purporting. But this definitely falls into the category of "I'll believe it when I see it." Even then I think it'll take DNA evidence to prove this claim beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Regardless, I still am curious as to why FM would start a post such as this. What are his intentions? Why has he kept this quiet for so long? What gain does he stand to receive? I suppose that we'll find out on 8.12.06. cool.gif

biggrin.gif Hey O,
You weren't offensive......just wanted to keep a nice sit down for awhile atomosphere here......that's all.....love to always have you join us.....glad to have Freedom Man here as well and all the rest of you dedicated wonderful Ray/Doors/Riders/Cult fans that frequent our cyber space here on this most delightful Sunday afternoon....it's always a pleasure to be sure cool.gif .
O as always you bring up very interesting and important points and questions that probably most of us have in the back of our minds.....and hopefully on 8.11.06...they should be answered.
Freedom Man.....you have always been a very interesting poster and a knowledgeable Doors/Riders fan so I must say that I am very intrigued also....as I am sure most people here are.....I have found you very informative, whitty, intelligent, and down-to -earth...so with all this said....this should be a very interesting revelation of sorts. I look forward to the unveiling of this information......thanks to each and everyone of you who have come to see us here and have or will post on this courious subject about our beloved James D. Morrison.
Peace wink.gif
M-B
Webmaster
Kurt,
We all know Jim Morrison went into the energy in Paris in 1971. From past experience, these types of threads usually don't end well, but if you're up for it, I guess we are too. Post your story and your photographs. But we warned, Doors fans are a very critical group and are very protective of Jim and the band's legacy.
Dave
billyd
yeah, you don't wanna fuck with us doors fans! cool.gif
Mary-Beth
QUOTE(billyd @ Aug 6 2006, 11:07 PM) *

yeah, you don't wanna fuck with us doors fans! cool.gif

huh.gif
PK The First
Four days to go until Jim Morrison is unveiled, alive and well, living in Germany perhaps?!?! smile.gif I will start preparing my neighbours for the ultimate street party... biggrin.gif

If he's alive, do you think he'll be on the 2007 Riders On The Storm Tour? laugh.gif This could really piss Ian Astbury off... biggrin.gif

Peace and love to ya Freedom Man - you're either gonna be a hero or be crucified. One way or another, you're goin' down in history buddy... smile.gif

PK cool.gif
Mary-Beth
QUOTE(PK The First @ Aug 7 2006, 08:45 AM) *

Four days to go until Jim Morrison is unveiled, alive and well, living in Germany perhaps?!?! smile.gif I will start preparing my neighbours for the ultimate street party... biggrin.gif

If he's alive, do you think he'll be on the 2007 Riders On The Storm Tour? laugh.gif This could really piss Ian Astbury off... biggrin.gif

Peace and love to ya Freedom Man - you're either gonna be a hero or be crucified. One way or another, you're goin' down in history buddy... smile.gif

PK cool.gif

cool.gif Hi PK,
Always so nice to have you drop by...................you are sunshine in my eye wink.gif
FreedomMan...hang in there........I for one want to thank-you for the post...the boards have been DEAD......so I am glad that we have something to look forward too.....a enlightenment of sorts........so lets give Freedom Man a chance........I think he can take whatever our member have to say, espically when he is looking for the truth...........lets give him a fighting chance...see/hear what he has to say.....now, no offence here Freedom....but you better not show us a picture of that bloomin so called Jim Morrison Rodeo Cowboy AS..h....l....e! I am so very sick of that crap or that "little lady" (as Ian would say) that wrote the book about Jim being connected with voodooo and is now a walking dead.......PLease lets not go to either of these so-called conspiracy theories rolleyes.gif ....But knowing Freedom...I believe he has something....don't know to what extent...but has "something"...so we shall soon see!
Peace, Love and Truth!
wink.gif M-B
PK The First
Oh what I would give to hold your beautiful optimism on this one M-B!!! I fear he has Rodeo-Jim photos and has way-overplayed his hand on it! I hope to be proved massively wrong though. smile.gif And either way, he's a Doors-fan, so I couldn't hold a few Rodeo-Jim photos against him! biggrin.gif

Unfortunately, the truth is usually damned dull! But hey, whichever way, he has resucitated the boards, albeit temporarily!

PK biggrin.gif
Mary-Beth
QUOTE(PK The First @ Aug 7 2006, 02:27 PM) *

Oh what I would give to hold your beautiful optimism on this one M-B!!! I fear he has Rodeo-Jim photos and has way-overplayed his hand on it! I hope to be proved massively wrong though. smile.gif And either way, he's a Doors-fan, so I couldn't hold a few Rodeo-Jim photos against him! biggrin.gif

Unfortunately, the truth is usually damned dull! But hey, whichever way, he has resucitated the boards, albeit temporarily!

PK biggrin.gif

biggrin.gif
PK...you are still the sunshine in my eye wink.gif
I need to differ with you in one point.......the real truth is usually much more interesting then anything one can make up or call fiction...........but first you have to really find the "REAL" truth.
I'm Lovin 'it!
Peace....Truth=Freedom!
rolleyes.gif Mary-Beth
FreedomMan
Hello, PK, Mary-Beth, Peace-Frog, Osiris, Dave,

thanks for your kindness! Actually, the pro-votings are in major. Butt we'll have to wait until the end of 08.12.

But, please, before starting wild speculations about Jim Morrison alive and well 1988 or later: I please you, do read carefully what I wrote. Please, do it ... !

Best

Yours

FreedomMan
PK The First
QUOTE(FreedomMan @ Aug 9 2006, 07:08 AM) *

Hello, PK, Mary-Beth, Peace-Frog, Osiris, Dave,

thanks for your kindness! Actually, the pro-votings are in major. Butt we'll have to wait until the end of 08.12.

But, please, before starting wild speculations about Jim Morrison alive and well 1988 or later: I please you, do read carefully what I wrote. Please, do it ... !

Best

Yours

FreedomMan


When you say you were the one who had 'taken' the picture, you do mean you were the one who originally pressed the button on the camera right?!?! Because if you just 'took' a picture of Jim off some guy's desk, then that's just stealing and stealing's wrong mister... laugh.gif

Seriously, tell me you don't mean it that way... ohmy.gif

PK biggrin.gif
FreedomMan
QUOTE(PK The First @ Aug 10 2006, 02:54 AM) *

When you say you were the one who had 'taken' the picture, you do mean you were the one who originally pressed the button on the camera right?!?! Because if you just 'took' a picture of Jim off some guy's desk, then that's just stealing and stealing's wrong mister... laugh.gif

Seriously, tell me you don't mean it that way... ohmy.gif

PK biggrin.gif


Oh, that's an important thing, PK, you're right! Thank you for reminding me that! smile.gif

I've got a lot of pictures of the Lizard King, which I really "took" myself by pressing the button and let George Eastman & friends do the rest ... wink.gif

But the picture that I want to show you was "taken" by me that way, that - really - I arranged it, but another person pressed the button, but allowed me to "take" that picture then for my own. You know, like those Japanese or Korean sightseers, who always ask an inhabitant to make a picture of them in front of the Empire State Building, the Peter's Dome or the Frankfurt Roemer. So, I guess I might have the right to show it to others, too. Please do accept that in the case of keeping the real photographers pricacy I will not mention her name.

Kurt rolleyes.gif

P.s.: And, Daniel, maybe you think of this: I really once "stole" a photograph of Jim Morrison. I found it somewhere in the internet, lots of pictures are all around there, and no copyright marks. I used it for creating the cover of my novel. Normalwise, it should be task of the publisher's house to care about other copyrights. But it was a small publishing house, the book was printed in about 150 copies only, and I hope, it was a lesser sin. If I ever had a chance to pay a fee to the unknown photographer, I would do it, of course. But I did not earn any nickel by publishing the book. Instead of, ot costed me about 500 Euros. smile.gif
FreedomMan
Dear friends,

to shorten your time during waiting for the results of the voting and - probably - hearing my story, I want to show you some photographs of the country where the Lizard King is well and alive nowadays, and of the wonderfull people living there! Enjoy the pictures, and maybe you would like to riddle a little bit where this beautiful country could be. Some like to call it "The land of milk and honey" ... wink.gif

Maybe I will add some more pics the next days. I have to look into my "pictures" folder. So hold on, and pay another visit .....

And, my dearest PK: all the photographs are "taken" by myself - okay, it wasn't really me. It was my EOS camera ... rolleyes.gif

The Lizard King's Country

Feel free to download the pictures, but, please, pay attention to the copyrights: all photographs are © FreedomMan

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Kurt
the blue bus
Hmm nice ducks biggrin.gif
FreedomMan
QUOTE(the blue bus @ Aug 10 2006, 01:53 PM) *

Hmm nice ducks biggrin.gif

Never call a goose a duck .... !!!! laugh.gif
Osiris
Something smells fishy in Denmark. Skepticism abounds with each post from FM. I think it is safe to say that the Lizard King does not = Jim Morrison from the Doors. What is this photograph about? We'll have to see this weekend.
FreedomMan
QUOTE(Osiris @ Aug 10 2006, 06:25 PM) *

Something smells fishy in Denmark. Skepticism abounds with each post from FM. I think it is safe to say that the Lizard King does not = Jim Morrison from the Doors. What is this photograph about? We'll have to see this weekend.


Denmark is surrounded by the North and the Baltic Sea - so no wonder that it smells fishy there ..., wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif

Or did you visit a red light house, osiris???? laugh.gif

But they prepare the best hot dogs I've ever tasted, the Danes ... rolleyes.gif
FreedomMan
Hi to all of you!

Well, the time for the voting is over. There have been only a fiew votings, but they're all pro, obviously.

So, as I promised to you, I'll get ready to tell you the story I promised to you. But, please do accept that I have to clear up some questions with Dave, The Webmaster, before starting. He's a little bit afraid that I could want to fool you. Do you really believe in that I wanted to fool you? unsure.gif

So, I want to start only by showing the promised photograph of The Lizard King alive and well, taken in 1988. And, my dearest PK, I swear it to you: I am the one who pressed the button .... !!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Here once more the link to the photos: The Lizard King alive and well

If Dave does agree to what I'm planning to talk to you, I'll then open a new topic named "The Lizard King alive and well". Please, give me some days to clear it all up and write down my words carefully and without being stressed.

Peace

Kurt
Webmaster
Any of you ever see the '60s show Batman when they would get messages from the Riddler? Now I know how they felt! Either way Freedom Man, post yout story and let's see what happens.
Dave
FreedomMan
QUOTE(Webmaster @ Aug 13 2006, 06:20 AM) *

Any of you ever see the '60s show Batman when they would get messages from the Riddler? Now I know how they felt! Either way Freedom Man, post yout story and let's see what happens.
Dave


What a quick answer! Thank you, Dave (just sent you a private message)! smile.gif

Okay, so, please, give me some days.


See you later

FreedomMan
Mary-Beth
QUOTE(Webmaster @ Aug 13 2006, 12:20 AM) *

Any of you ever see the '60s show Batman when they would get messages from the Riddler? Now I know how they felt! Either way Freedom Man, post yout story and let's see what happens.
Dave

laugh.gif Yes...Dave.....that's sure the feeling here...too funny.....Batman.......Batman...Batman
FreedomMan...FreedomMan.....FreedomMan..... wink.gif
Peace,
wink.gif M-B
Mary-Beth
QUOTE(FreedomMan @ Aug 13 2006, 12:25 AM) *

What a quick answer! Thank you, Dave (just sent you a private message)! smile.gif

Okay, so, please, give me some days.
See you later

FreedomMan

smile.gif Can't wait FreedomMan wink.gif
Peace,
cool.gif M-B
FreedomMan
QUOTE(Mary-Beth @ Aug 13 2006, 07:08 AM) *

smile.gif Can't wait FreedomMan wink.gif
Peace,
cool.gif M-B


Nice to read that, M-B! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif Thank you!

The topic will begin in five moments ....
PK The First
Holy Psychadelic Lizards Batman...do you think he'll prove the Lizard King's still alive?!?! biggrin.gif

I will read your topic with eager, but patient anticipation, Freedom Man!!! cool.gif

To the Batmobile.......I mean, erm, the other thread... laugh.gif

PK wink.gif

ps, nice picture. Good to put a face to a name buddy. smile.gif cool.gif
Jimbo
I love Batman
FreedomMan
QUOTE(Jimbo @ Aug 13 2006, 10:32 PM) *

I love Batman

I love bad women ... laugh.gif
FreedomMan
QUOTE(PK The First @ Aug 13 2006, 08:16 PM) *

Holy Psychadelic Lizards Batman...do you think he'll prove the Lizard King's still alive?!?! biggrin.gif

I will read your topic with eager, but patient anticipation, Freedom Man!!! cool.gif

To the Batmobile.......I mean, erm, the other thread... laugh.gif

PK wink.gif

ps, nice picture. Good to put a face to a name buddy. smile.gif cool.gif


Still waters are still deep, dear PK, and I hope the Lizard King will be alive forever .... or at least until the music's over .... wink.gif

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