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TO ALL DOORS FANS, BOARDS MEMBERS AND MODERATORS

Here is a personal message to all of you from Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger:


When we first envisioned the creation of The Doors Message Boards we had a purpose in mind –-- to foster a place for Doors fans from all over the world to come, be part of a community, and contribute to the legacy of The Doors, as well as provide a safe haven that offered support, understanding and a common, shared purpose: Love of The Doors, Jim Morrison, his poetry, our music, and everything The Doors stand for as a group. We have watched with concern as the message boards have been usurped in their purpose and, through the negativity of several members, have devolved into hate, recrimination and plain old mean-spiritedness. This is no longer a community we can support.

As The Doors, we have had personal disagreements with each other, and we have differing feelings and opinions regarding several issues that are important to us. However, we also have well over thirty years of history with each other and have had, many times over our decades together, differing viewpoints on important issues. This has never stopped us from stating our views, both personally and as Doors members – and it has never stopped us from working together towards our one common goal: the support, concern, and fostering of THE DOORS as a band.

Yes, we have each been guilty of some of the same things we see happening on the boards. Yes, we have each stumbled and sometimes said things in anger that we later regretted. We are not saints, and we are not asking you to be, either. However, The Doors are bigger than any of us individually, and we are all committed to bringing the legacy, the principles we believe in as a band, and the music of The Doors forward for the next generations to come. We have, sometimes with great difficulty and inner turmoil, put our personal feelings aside in order to cooperate in this endeavor. Now we are asking each of you to do the same.

We have decided to make some changes to our message boards. Many of you have strong opinions on issues that are important to you. We encourage you to express your opinions, but to do so IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF LOVE AND SUPPORT, contributing to a positive, uplifting environment where all Doors fans can come. We are not interested in supporting an environment where participants are called names, ridiculed, or viciously attacked, whether the target be any one of you, us, our management team, our advisors or anyone else.

To help in this endeavor, effective immediately we are moving the ROTS board, and all individual member and member project threads, off of The Doors Message Boards and onto each member’s own website. You may go to these individual websites to discuss your opinions about ROTS, Tribaljazz, The Butts Band, The Robby Krieger Band, and other issues not related to The Doors as a whole. However, none of us will tolerate rude behavior on our individual sites, either. We are not interested in anyone coming here to ridicule any one of us, or any of you, for any reason. If you want to do that, find another forum – it’s a free country and a wide world, but here on The Doors Message Boards and on our individual boards, it will not be tolerated.

We have instructed our manager, Jeff Jampol, to watch over the boards, and to permanently ban any member making incendiary or name-calling attacks in their posts. His word will be final and irrevocable. If you disagree with anything that is going on, or with an individual band member’s stance on an issue, we are not censoring you – you are free to speak your mind, in a positive, uplifting, contributory way.

Don’t forget, we have been brothers-in-arms for well over three decades, and none of us is willing to let outsiders or fans come between us, even though we may have attacked each other in the past. That is sometimes - sadly - what brothers do. Yes, there have been a lot of hurt feelings among us, angry sentiments, even bitter infighting that may take a long time to heal – if ever. But we all stand together when it comes to The Doors, and the legacy we wish to leave behind, and we will close ranks to defend against any attacks from outside our inner circle, no matter who the target – or the attacker - may be.

If you wish to go sound off and attack The Doors – or any one of us - feel free to do so, but not on The Doors Message Boards, which we finance and make available to you as a service. We do, however, look forward to continuing to facilitate the spirited discussions among our fans, and even our critics, that we have come to appreciate. Just leave the personal animosities, name-calling, accusations and viciousness at home. Or write to your congressperson!

Love -

Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger
THE DOORS
Chicago Zo
Sounds Great!!! This is what the Board should be.
PK The First
Same thoughts here! It's good to see what has been done to this Board. Good timing too, I finally got my own PC to play with!!! And the day I get it, the new Boards are launched!!!

It's good to be back here (It's Philosopher King in case anyone remembers me!). I remember finding it somewhat difficult in the past to keep my cool on these boards!!! rolleyes.gif I love Ray, Robby and John, and have seen and met Ray and Robby through the D21C stuff and hopefully in the future as Riders On The Storm (can't bring myself to call the band ROTS quite yet! Too obvious a mickey-take opportunity for my non-Doors friends! ROTS...hmm, definite new acrynym competition required guys!) I hope ALL Doors are doing well, John Robby and Ray down here and Jim up in the ether, and the Riders On The Storm guys too, Ian, mi fav person from Warrington/Bradford - both just 30 miles away from me in sunny Bolton, Lancashire (not Blackburn, Lancashire as The Beatles sang once - that's next door!), Ty Dennis, Phil Chen peace 'n love to you both and former Riders - Angelo and Stewart.

Riders - when you comin' back to England? We miss you over here, and these are psychadelic times in Old Blighty!!! The scene's just right for you guys, great new music, political discontent, protests on the streets, hell..metaphorical Lions In The Street...Roaming, waiting for the sun and The Riders On The Storm to return in their new coat of arms...

Familiar Freak - good work on here - well done! Missed ya buddy!

Daniel tongue.gif
stratgazer
Sounds Great! I look forward to keeping up with the odds and ends of whats cooking with the guys. I'm really excited to see that this is going to be a positive place to come and exchange ideas and thoughts on the happenings of Ray,Robbie and John. Peace and Love to all.
Stratgazer
Miss Mojo Risin
Well put... I think that there is enough hate & negativity in our world and atmosphere - there is no need to express it in a public forum (which was intended for intelligent discussion, debate and comment) on the internet. I guess people have 2 much time on their hands...

Thanks for making the change as I know it will serve to benefit us all in a positive way!


LG
so limitless and free
Great initiative from Ray, Robby and John, I like your words very much.
rickerus
i agree with all of you. i hope some how we will see more possative comments on the boards ive bin posting my poetry for a couple years on robbys until resently i wanna thank you for letting me. i look forward to seeing a more positive atmosphere.
:)
irishgal

Thanks guys, that was so long overdue....i left the boards for three months because of acrimony...couldn't believe the stuff so-called fans were writing....I logged back in this morning and found the site had moved to rays site. Thanks for not getting rid of it altogether....i wouldn't have blamed you if you did!!!

With that said, am delighted to be back to a pleasant atmosphere once again....you guys will one day sort your issues out...in the meantime though....please consider playing Ireland again real soon....we love you guys here!! I'll even buy the first round of drink....you can't say fairer than that?????




QUOTE(FamiliarFreak @ Oct 27 2005, 03:59 AM) *

TO ALL DOORS FANS, BOARDS MEMBERS AND MODERATORS

Here is a personal message to all of you from Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger:
When we first envisioned the creation of The Doors Message Boards we had a purpose in mind –-- to foster a place for Doors fans from all over the world to come, be part of a community, and contribute to the legacy of The Doors, as well as provide a safe haven that offered support, understanding and a common, shared purpose: Love of The Doors, Jim Morrison, his poetry, our music, and everything The Doors stand for as a group. We have watched with concern as the message boards have been usurped in their purpose and, through the negativity of several members, have devolved into hate, recrimination and plain old mean-spiritedness. This is no longer a community we can support.

As The Doors, we have had personal disagreements with each other, and we have differing feelings and opinions regarding several issues that are important to us. However, we also have well over thirty years of history with each other and have had, many times over our decades together, differing viewpoints on important issues. This has never stopped us from stating our views, both personally and as Doors members – and it has never stopped us from working together towards our one common goal: the support, concern, and fostering of THE DOORS as a band.

Yes, we have each been guilty of some of the same things we see happening on the boards. Yes, we have each stumbled and sometimes said things in anger that we later regretted. We are not saints, and we are not asking you to be, either. However, The Doors are bigger than any of us individually, and we are all committed to bringing the legacy, the principles we believe in as a band, and the music of The Doors forward for the next generations to come. We have, sometimes with great difficulty and inner turmoil, put our personal feelings aside in order to cooperate in this endeavor. Now we are asking each of you to do the same.

We have decided to make some changes to our message boards. Many of you have strong opinions on issues that are important to you. We encourage you to express your opinions, but to do so IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF LOVE AND SUPPORT, contributing to a positive, uplifting environment where all Doors fans can come. We are not interested in supporting an environment where participants are called names, ridiculed, or viciously attacked, whether the target be any one of you, us, our management team, our advisors or anyone else.

To help in this endeavor, effective immediately we are moving the ROTS board, and all individual member and member project threads, off of The Doors Message Boards and onto each member’s own website. You may go to these individual websites to discuss your opinions about ROTS, Tribaljazz, The Butts Band, The Robby Krieger Band, and other issues not related to The Doors as a whole. However, none of us will tolerate rude behavior on our individual sites, either. We are not interested in anyone coming here to ridicule any one of us, or any of you, for any reason. If you want to do that, find another forum – it’s a free country and a wide world, but here on The Doors Message Boards and on our individual boards, it will not be tolerated.

We have instructed our manager, Jeff Jampol, to watch over the boards, and to permanently ban any member making incendiary or name-calling attacks in their posts. His word will be final and irrevocable. If you disagree with anything that is going on, or with an individual band member’s stance on an issue, we are not censoring you – you are free to speak your mind, in a positive, uplifting, contributory way.

Don’t forget, we have been brothers-in-arms for well over three decades, and none of us is willing to let outsiders or fans come between us, even though we may have attacked each other in the past. That is sometimes - sadly - what brothers do. Yes, there have been a lot of hurt feelings among us, angry sentiments, even bitter infighting that may take a long time to heal – if ever. But we all stand together when it comes to The Doors, and the legacy we wish to leave behind, and we will close ranks to defend against any attacks from outside our inner circle, no matter who the target – or the attacker - may be.

If you wish to go sound off and attack The Doors – or any one of us - feel free to do so, but not on The Doors Message Boards, which we finance and make available to you as a service. We do, however, look forward to continuing to facilitate the spirited discussions among our fans, and even our critics, that we have come to appreciate. Just leave the personal animosities, name-calling, accusations and viciousness at home. Or write to your congressperson!

Love -

Ray Manzarek, John Densmore and Robby Krieger
THE DOORS

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lizard_king
Hi all, I'm a new member from Greece and I would like to express some views. Firstly, I just read this message from the remainig Doors and I really hope you guys mean these things and i'ts not just another trick for earning more money...
I would also like to say that I'm pleased to hear about "Riders On The Storm" and that they are going to be playing good old classics, but I think that the best thing that could be done is to form a band with Ray Manzarek in keyboards, Robby Krieger in guitar, Jonh Densmore in the drums and various vocalists, I mean it would be better if there wasn't just one singer in the band all the time , not that I don't like Astbury but I think that his trying to look like Morrison and I don't like that at all mad.gif
Anyway, to close i'd like to say that there are many fans here in Greece and either way we are all hoping for a concert(with or without Densmore), see'ya.
John Duggins
QUOTE(rickerus @ Nov 13 2005, 06:56 AM) *

i agree with all of you. i hope some how we will see more possative comments on the boards ive bin posting my poetry for a couple years on robbys until resently i wanna thank you for letting me. i look forward to seeing a more positive atmosphere.
smile.gif


I always enjoyed your poetry and the other great words there.

J
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Imrahil
QUOTE(lizard_king @ Dec 7 2005, 04:27 PM) *

Hi all, I'm a new member from Greece and I would like to express some views. Firstly, I just read this message from the remainig Doors and I really hope you guys mean these things and i'ts not just another trick for earning more money...
I would also like to say that I'm pleased to hear about "Riders On The Storm" and that they are going to be playing good old classics, but I think that the best thing that could be done is to form a band with Ray Manzarek in keyboards, Robby Krieger in guitar, Jonh Densmore in the drums and various vocalists, I mean it would be better if there wasn't just one singer in the band all the time , not that I don't like Astbury but I think that his trying to look like Morrison and I don't like that at all mad.gif
Anyway, to close i'd like to say that there are many fans here in Greece and either way we are all hoping for a concert(with or without Densmore), see'ya.


Πού ήσουνα πέρυσι όταν κάηκε όλο το Λεκανοπέδιο από την συναυλία τους ? wink.gif
lizard_king
perisi?
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