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generally the doors [ ray and robby ] play really small venues , 2000 to 5000 seat venues !! its strange to see that since they have been recognized greatly in the past decades with the movies , books , huge record sales ! ibands like deep purple are still able to pull around 10 thousand people on average !! what do you guys think ?
Deep Purple make new music.... Ray and Robby are a cover band
QUOTE(fpicks @ Apr 8 2009, 01:00 PM) 
Deep Purple make new music.... Ray and Robby are a cover band
Yes, Ray covers Ray Manzarek, and Robby covers Robby Krieger. Both do pretty good jobs too
Both played to 17,000 people (including me) near Buffalo last summer
I mean to say that they are an oldies act. How many albums of new material have they put out?
A oldies band dude you funny.
When the band first started the d21c/riders they were selling out 12.000 and they still getting large crowds in south america.
When the band first started the d21c/riders they were selling out 12.000 and they still getting large crowds in south america.
We all know that the boys could play to bigger venues if they wanted to.
We all know that they they are not a cover band, they are the real thing.
All we want to know is when are they coming to Europe cos they are the best damn act in the world, playing the best music ever written, performed by them 40 yrs ago and now.
Willie
We all know that they they are not a cover band, they are the real thing.
All we want to know is when are they coming to Europe cos they are the best damn act in the world, playing the best music ever written, performed by them 40 yrs ago and now.
Willie
QUOTE(agha @ Apr 8 2009, 08:12 AM)
generally the doors [ ray and robby ] play really small venues , 2000 to 5000 seat venues !! its strange to see that since they have been recognized greatly in the past decades with the movies , books , huge record sales ! ibands like deep purple are still able to pull around 10 thousand people on average !! what do you guys think ?
I'm pretty sure they could still play larger venues if they wanted to. Even back when they were "The Doors" they preferred the smaller venues because they felt the music played better to that type of environment. Another way to look at it is this: they're selling out 2000-5000 seat venues with little to no promotion - more or less a following of "friends".
QUOTE(brianw @ Apr 12 2009, 04:37 PM)
I'm pretty sure they could still play larger venues if they wanted to. Even back when they were "The Doors" they preferred the smaller venues because they felt the music played better to that type of environment. Another way to look at it is this: they're selling out 2000-5000 seat venues with little to no promotion - more or less a following of "friends".
wELL SAID.
After the last show I saw couple of days ago, I think agha has got a point. It's not about being a cover band or not, I don't know why they chose the smaller venue for the last show, a small parking lot, small stage, way out of the city I don't know who chose this place and why...it wans't full, just 1/3 or half full. It was about 1000 people there...maybe because it was out of the way for most people as I said. If they played in the city they would have a sold out concert as they did the last two times they played here. The first Ray/Robby show here was 7000 people, sold out weeks before, they could easily have sold couple more thousand seats at the time if the place were bigger.
Either way, I agree with brianw, I myself prefer smaller places.
Either way, I agree with brianw, I myself prefer smaller places.
There's two sides to this band. There's the big stadium events of like 2003-2004, which was brilliant, 'cos it made the statement: "We're The Doors, we still rule" etc. etc. and it was amazing to see the guys in all their pomp really blowing massive speakers to smithereens. That side of The Doors' music, live, is stunning, overwhelming even and it was a privilege to see.
But, the bigger privilege is having had the opportunity to see them in venues so small that you can tell what the band had to eat beforehand, because you were so close you could smell their breath!
In other words, it's intimate, a conversation between friends with music as the medium for that conversation. It's like being in their living room, but it's the living room of their musical minds. Psychedelic mental-couches lined up against the walls, freakish figures adorning, in an LSD-tinged haze. Beer as the liquid petroleum of the trip, and Jack D. as the oil to keep the mental-mind-machine running smoothly. It was funny, joyful, tinged with a loss at the corner of the mind's eye, that loss-feeling representing both Jim and the passage of time, which will ultimately rob us all of the experience of watching these people we love do what they do in this physical manifestation-stage of our psychic existence.
The only downside I can think of, when it comes to the small venues is that they present an opportunity for the small minded to say - 'oh well, it must be some kind of tribute show because there's only a thousand people there.' If people want to judge the greatness of a band by the number of people inside a venue, that means The Spice Girls were the best band since The Beatles and Westlife are all-conquering musical geniuses.
One of the signs of greatness in musicians is the size of their following being proportionate to the number of intelligent people in the given country they're playing in - e.g. Britain is full of morons, so if the band were playing in front of 50,000 people at a football ground here, it would mean the band's music appealed primarily to idiots, as there's no way you could 50,000 intelligent people left in my country! I'm grateful for shows with 500-2000 because I know the people in the room won't be dicks, which only enhances the whole experience. A good show is like a fine wine - best enjoyed within the feast of friends as opposed to the giant family, drooling, hollering, begging on it's knees for a flash of cock or a tittie on the stage. I don't need that; I wanna see tits and dick, I'll go and find some in a bar. If I wanna see and hear amazing music and for that, there is Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger and no-one else matches them. 
Oh well - I hope, pray to the gods and directly to Saints Manzarek & Krieger to jump on a jet-plane and take one last trip around the watery-damp British sun. Come back guys, we still have enough surreality to make your work enjoyable here.
Daniel PK
But, the bigger privilege is having had the opportunity to see them in venues so small that you can tell what the band had to eat beforehand, because you were so close you could smell their breath!
In other words, it's intimate, a conversation between friends with music as the medium for that conversation. It's like being in their living room, but it's the living room of their musical minds. Psychedelic mental-couches lined up against the walls, freakish figures adorning, in an LSD-tinged haze. Beer as the liquid petroleum of the trip, and Jack D. as the oil to keep the mental-mind-machine running smoothly. It was funny, joyful, tinged with a loss at the corner of the mind's eye, that loss-feeling representing both Jim and the passage of time, which will ultimately rob us all of the experience of watching these people we love do what they do in this physical manifestation-stage of our psychic existence.The only downside I can think of, when it comes to the small venues is that they present an opportunity for the small minded to say - 'oh well, it must be some kind of tribute show because there's only a thousand people there.' If people want to judge the greatness of a band by the number of people inside a venue, that means The Spice Girls were the best band since The Beatles and Westlife are all-conquering musical geniuses.
One of the signs of greatness in musicians is the size of their following being proportionate to the number of intelligent people in the given country they're playing in - e.g. Britain is full of morons, so if the band were playing in front of 50,000 people at a football ground here, it would mean the band's music appealed primarily to idiots, as there's no way you could 50,000 intelligent people left in my country! I'm grateful for shows with 500-2000 because I know the people in the room won't be dicks, which only enhances the whole experience. A good show is like a fine wine - best enjoyed within the feast of friends as opposed to the giant family, drooling, hollering, begging on it's knees for a flash of cock or a tittie on the stage. I don't need that; I wanna see tits and dick, I'll go and find some in a bar. If I wanna see and hear amazing music and for that, there is Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger and no-one else matches them. Oh well - I hope, pray to the gods and directly to Saints Manzarek & Krieger to jump on a jet-plane and take one last trip around the watery-damp British sun. Come back guys, we still have enough surreality to make your work enjoyable here.
Daniel PK
QUOTE(PK The First @ Apr 25 2009, 04:48 PM)
There's two sides to this band. There's the big stadium events of like 2003-2004, which was brilliant, 'cos it made the statement: "We're The Doors, we still rule" etc. etc. and it was amazing to see the guys in all their pomp really blowing massive speakers to smithereens. That side of The Doors' music, live, is stunning, overwhelming even and it was a privilege to see.
But, the bigger privilege is having had the opportunity to see them in venues so small that you can tell what the band had to eat beforehand, because you were so close you could smell their breath! In other words, it's intimate, a conversation between friends with music as the medium for that conversation. It's like being in their living room, but it's the living room of their musical minds. Psychedelic mental-couches lined up against the walls, freakish figures adorning, in an LSD-tinged haze. Beer as the liquid petroleum of the trip, and Jack D. as the oil to keep the mental-mind-machine running smoothly. It was funny, joyful, tinged with a loss at the corner of the mind's eye, that loss-feeling representing both Jim and the passage of time, which will ultimately rob us all of the experience of watching these people we love do what they do in this physical manifestation-stage of our psychic existence.
The only downside I can think of, when it comes to the small venues is that they present an opportunity for the small minded to say - 'oh well, it must be some kind of tribute show because there's only a thousand people there.' If people want to judge the greatness of a band by the number of people inside a venue, that means The Spice Girls were the best band since The Beatles and Westlife are all-conquering musical geniuses. One of the signs of greatness in musicians is the size of their following being proportionate to the number of intelligent people in the given country they're playing in - e.g. Britain is full of morons, so if the band were playing in front of 50,000 people at a football ground here, it would mean the band's music appealed primarily to idiots, as there's no way you could 50,000 intelligent people left in my country! I'm grateful for shows with 500-2000 because I know the people in the room won't be dicks, which only enhances the whole experience. A good show is like a fine wine - best enjoyed within the feast of friends as opposed to the giant family, drooling, hollering, begging on it's knees for a flash of cock or a tittie on the stage. I don't need that; I wanna see tits and dick, I'll go and find some in a bar. If I wanna see and hear amazing music and for that, there is Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger and no-one else matches them.
Oh well - I hope, pray to the gods and directly to Saints Manzarek & Krieger to jump on a jet-plane and take one last trip around the watery-damp British sun. Come back guys, we still have enough surreality to make your work enjoyable here.
Daniel PK
But, the bigger privilege is having had the opportunity to see them in venues so small that you can tell what the band had to eat beforehand, because you were so close you could smell their breath!
In other words, it's intimate, a conversation between friends with music as the medium for that conversation. It's like being in their living room, but it's the living room of their musical minds. Psychedelic mental-couches lined up against the walls, freakish figures adorning, in an LSD-tinged haze. Beer as the liquid petroleum of the trip, and Jack D. as the oil to keep the mental-mind-machine running smoothly. It was funny, joyful, tinged with a loss at the corner of the mind's eye, that loss-feeling representing both Jim and the passage of time, which will ultimately rob us all of the experience of watching these people we love do what they do in this physical manifestation-stage of our psychic existence.The only downside I can think of, when it comes to the small venues is that they present an opportunity for the small minded to say - 'oh well, it must be some kind of tribute show because there's only a thousand people there.' If people want to judge the greatness of a band by the number of people inside a venue, that means The Spice Girls were the best band since The Beatles and Westlife are all-conquering musical geniuses.
One of the signs of greatness in musicians is the size of their following being proportionate to the number of intelligent people in the given country they're playing in - e.g. Britain is full of morons, so if the band were playing in front of 50,000 people at a football ground here, it would mean the band's music appealed primarily to idiots, as there's no way you could 50,000 intelligent people left in my country! I'm grateful for shows with 500-2000 because I know the people in the room won't be dicks, which only enhances the whole experience. A good show is like a fine wine - best enjoyed within the feast of friends as opposed to the giant family, drooling, hollering, begging on it's knees for a flash of cock or a tittie on the stage. I don't need that; I wanna see tits and dick, I'll go and find some in a bar. If I wanna see and hear amazing music and for that, there is Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger and no-one else matches them. Oh well - I hope, pray to the gods and directly to Saints Manzarek & Krieger to jump on a jet-plane and take one last trip around the watery-damp British sun. Come back guys, we still have enough surreality to make your work enjoyable here.
Daniel PK
well said
QUOTE(PK The First @ Apr 25 2009, 05:48 PM)
There's two sides to this band. There's the big stadium events of like 2003-2004, which was brilliant, 'cos it made the statement: "We're The Doors, we still rule" etc. etc. and it was amazing to see the guys in all their pomp really blowing massive speakers to smithereens. That side of The Doors' music, live, is stunning, overwhelming even and it was a privilege to see.
But, the bigger privilege is having had the opportunity to see them in venues so small that you can tell what the band had to eat beforehand, because you were so close you could smell their breath! In other words, it's intimate, a conversation between friends with music as the medium for that conversation. It's like being in their living room, but it's the living room of their musical minds. Psychedelic mental-couches lined up against the walls, freakish figures adorning, in an LSD-tinged haze. Beer as the liquid petroleum of the trip, and Jack D. as the oil to keep the mental-mind-machine running smoothly. It was funny, joyful, tinged with a loss at the corner of the mind's eye, that loss-feeling representing both Jim and the passage of time, which will ultimately rob us all of the experience of watching these people we love do what they do in this physical manifestation-stage of our psychic existence.
The only downside I can think of, when it comes to the small venues is that they present an opportunity for the small minded to say - 'oh well, it must be some kind of tribute show because there's only a thousand people there.' If people want to judge the greatness of a band by the number of people inside a venue, that means The Spice Girls were the best band since The Beatles and Westlife are all-conquering musical geniuses. One of the signs of greatness in musicians is the size of their following being proportionate to the number of intelligent people in the given country they're playing in - e.g. Britain is full of morons, so if the band were playing in front of 50,000 people at a football ground here, it would mean the band's music appealed primarily to idiots, as there's no way you could 50,000 intelligent people left in my country! I'm grateful for shows with 500-2000 because I know the people in the room won't be dicks, which only enhances the whole experience. A good show is like a fine wine - best enjoyed within the feast of friends as opposed to the giant family, drooling, hollering, begging on it's knees for a flash of cock or a tittie on the stage. I don't need that; I wanna see tits and dick, I'll go and find some in a bar. If I wanna see and hear amazing music and for that, there is Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger and no-one else matches them.
Oh well - I hope, pray to the gods and directly to Saints Manzarek & Krieger to jump on a jet-plane and take one last trip around the watery-damp British sun. Come back guys, we still have enough surreality to make your work enjoyable here.
Daniel PK
But, the bigger privilege is having had the opportunity to see them in venues so small that you can tell what the band had to eat beforehand, because you were so close you could smell their breath!
In other words, it's intimate, a conversation between friends with music as the medium for that conversation. It's like being in their living room, but it's the living room of their musical minds. Psychedelic mental-couches lined up against the walls, freakish figures adorning, in an LSD-tinged haze. Beer as the liquid petroleum of the trip, and Jack D. as the oil to keep the mental-mind-machine running smoothly. It was funny, joyful, tinged with a loss at the corner of the mind's eye, that loss-feeling representing both Jim and the passage of time, which will ultimately rob us all of the experience of watching these people we love do what they do in this physical manifestation-stage of our psychic existence.The only downside I can think of, when it comes to the small venues is that they present an opportunity for the small minded to say - 'oh well, it must be some kind of tribute show because there's only a thousand people there.' If people want to judge the greatness of a band by the number of people inside a venue, that means The Spice Girls were the best band since The Beatles and Westlife are all-conquering musical geniuses.
One of the signs of greatness in musicians is the size of their following being proportionate to the number of intelligent people in the given country they're playing in - e.g. Britain is full of morons, so if the band were playing in front of 50,000 people at a football ground here, it would mean the band's music appealed primarily to idiots, as there's no way you could 50,000 intelligent people left in my country! I'm grateful for shows with 500-2000 because I know the people in the room won't be dicks, which only enhances the whole experience. A good show is like a fine wine - best enjoyed within the feast of friends as opposed to the giant family, drooling, hollering, begging on it's knees for a flash of cock or a tittie on the stage. I don't need that; I wanna see tits and dick, I'll go and find some in a bar. If I wanna see and hear amazing music and for that, there is Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger and no-one else matches them. Oh well - I hope, pray to the gods and directly to Saints Manzarek & Krieger to jump on a jet-plane and take one last trip around the watery-damp British sun. Come back guys, we still have enough surreality to make your work enjoyable here.
Daniel PK
Pk is back top post mate.
QUOTE(willie dixon @ Apr 12 2009, 12:05 AM)
We all know that the boys could play to bigger venues if they wanted to.
We all know that they they are not a cover band, they are the real thing.
All we want to know is when are they coming to Europe cos they are the best damn act in the world, playing the best music ever written, performed by them 40 yrs ago and now.
Willie
We all know that they they are not a cover band, they are the real thing.
All we want to know is when are they coming to Europe cos they are the best damn act in the world, playing the best music ever written, performed by them 40 yrs ago and now.
Willie
"...THEY ARE THE REAL THING."
You are so right Brother!
And as we all KNOW there is only ONE REAL SHAMAN ROCK STAR-JDM!!!
PERIOD.
School's out for summer...time for a holiday.
Off to my ancestral village of Wingfield.
Yes, it would be cooooool to catch our Brothers-In-Arms over the summer in the UK.
Come on guys! We're waiting...
In the meantime-The Boys are Back in Town!!! (Liverpool)
And it's feel good music time to experience the angelic lead guitar riffs played by Sir Scott Gorham!!!
"I'm still in Love with You"
Have a wonderful summer, catch ya'll in the fall, when I'll
be working on my Master's Thesis!
Peace,
Spirit/Light
Raven (13) & Screaming Eagle
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