I know a lot of you will agree with me on this...
With all due respect to both Ian and Brett, ROTS are getting boring and depriving allready. For 6 years, they have been doing shows with the same setlist, band introductions, song introductions and conversations between songs.
Maybe Ray and Robby do technically play better these days, but they don't have the magic of the Doors anymore. They are just like any Doors tribute band.
And you know why is that? Because they are doing it for money. Ian once said "It's all from the heart"... maybe it was for him, as he's not a person that cares only for the money, and even if he did, he could have stayed with the Cult as well... but for Ray and Robby it was the money, and I'm sure John would join them too if he didn't have tinitus...
I think Ian and Brett both did a great job, but I'm kinda sick of it. I saw them 54 times, and I think that's it for me. The Doors are dead, and Riders are just like any Doors tribute band with two real Doors members.
Full Version: Riders Don't Have The Magic
Well they've had two different types of band introductions as well as playing a good number of their catalog songs, including some that are very non-mainstream. As someone who just stood next to their stage for two hours, there's still plenty of music left. I respectively disagree with what you've said
54 times? awesome, but if you're tired of the same, just don't buy a ticket, hehehe
QUOTE(The Royal Sperm @ Aug 11 2008, 08:35 PM) 
54 times? awesome, but if you're tired of the same, just don't buy a ticket, hehehe
Fernando, first of all, thnks for helping me to get my aproval to this forum.
And, as I said before... those 54 shows did it for me. No more.
Jimbo... you didn't get my point. The good thing about Riders is that they keep the music of The Doors alive. They are playing the music well, but there is no magic of the Doors.
QUOTE(lovro @ Aug 11 2008, 03:34 PM)
Fernando, first of all, thnks for helping me to get my aproval to this forum.
And, as I said before... those 54 shows did it for me. No more.
Jimbo... you didn't get my point. The good thing about Riders is that they keep the music of The Doors alive. They are playing the music well, but there is no magic of the Doors.
And, as I said before... those 54 shows did it for me. No more.
Jimbo... you didn't get my point. The good thing about Riders is that they keep the music of The Doors alive. They are playing the music well, but there is no magic of the Doors.
no I got your point, I just disagree. Of course seeing anything 54 times could get a little stale
Oh, so... you think Riders DO still have the magic of the Doors music?
ROTS is a great revival, i only saw them twice, at it was amazing,
Fernando, my friend... I'm dissapointed in you...
QUOTE(lovro @ Aug 11 2008, 11:11 PM)
Fernando, my friend... I'm dissapointed in you...
I myself shall keep going too see until the show is over.
As for the tribute band comment
I'd rather see a band that contains two of the original doors line up than a band that contains none (And hell i like tribute bands)
Ray & Robbie are two of the greats in there field and deserve mucho respect for there continued dedication in bringing us the doors music.
As you said you have seen them quite a few times (cool) so maybe you ave riders burn out.
I for one just hope i get too see them over 50 times (Hell yer bring it on)
Let the ceremony continue...
As for the tribute band comment
I'd rather see a band that contains two of the original doors line up than a band that contains none (And hell i like tribute bands)Ray & Robbie are two of the greats in there field and deserve mucho respect for there continued dedication in bringing us the doors music.
As you said you have seen them quite a few times (cool) so maybe you ave riders burn out.
I for one just hope i get too see them over 50 times (Hell yer bring it on)
Let the ceremony continue...
54 times? Wow!
No wonder your burnt out.
Years ago when D12C happened I got very excited and knew I'd travel however FAR to see this show. At that time half of my excitement came from the possibilities that D12C would be a band that would take off where The Doors left off years ago, writing new material while continuing to play the old catalog. 5 years and 2 singers later and still no new material released. A few years ago I would argue if D12C/Riders were a "tribute" act...today i'd say it is what it is.
Yes alot of the excitement has worn off for me and of course Riders doesnt have the same "magic" The Doors embodied but all in all Riders is a great way to experience and celebrate the music of The Doors in a live setting and its keeping the music alive.
With all that said,,, I'll still be at the front of the line to get tickets to the next show NEAR me.
Ride on
No wonder your burnt out.
Years ago when D12C happened I got very excited and knew I'd travel however FAR to see this show. At that time half of my excitement came from the possibilities that D12C would be a band that would take off where The Doors left off years ago, writing new material while continuing to play the old catalog. 5 years and 2 singers later and still no new material released. A few years ago I would argue if D12C/Riders were a "tribute" act...today i'd say it is what it is.
Yes alot of the excitement has worn off for me and of course Riders doesnt have the same "magic" The Doors embodied but all in all Riders is a great way to experience and celebrate the music of The Doors in a live setting and its keeping the music alive.
With all that said,,, I'll still be at the front of the line to get tickets to the next show NEAR me.
Ride on
QUOTE(stratgazer @ Aug 12 2008, 12:36 AM)
Yes alot of the excitement has worn off for me and of course Riders doesnt have the same "magic" The Doors embodied but all in all Riders is a great way to experience and celebrate the music of The Doors in a live setting and its keeping the music alive.
Exactly what I said too...
With all due respect lovro I must disagree with you. They are not just like any tribute band….they are original members! I saw Wild Child play at the Whisky a go go, that is a tribute band! I’m sure they are making money yes, but tell me if they are just in it for the money how I just able to see the magic first hand and front row for FREE???!!! It saddens me that you feel this way. The free show was my 5th and I can only hope it won’t be the last. I felt the magic the first time and I felt it this time. I can only hope that people with opinions similar to yours don’t discourage Riders from continuing to spread the magic!
They are a great revival, and deffinetley the best way to keep The Doors legacy alive in this day and age, but the magic is left back in the 60s...
I don't think it's because of Jim and John missing, because the sound and the magic of The Doors come from Ray and Robby anyway, but I think they just lost it...
They may even play technically better these days... but the magic is gone IMHO...
I think Ian and Brett were the best replacements for Jim the guys could find. I really liked the shows I saw, no matter the magic was missing, but I could still see my favourite band play my favourite songs live, and I enjoyed it...
I respect everyone's opinion on this, and I'd like to see more opinions.
Hope ya all are well.
Peace,
Lovro
I don't think it's because of Jim and John missing, because the sound and the magic of The Doors come from Ray and Robby anyway, but I think they just lost it...
They may even play technically better these days... but the magic is gone IMHO...
I think Ian and Brett were the best replacements for Jim the guys could find. I really liked the shows I saw, no matter the magic was missing, but I could still see my favourite band play my favourite songs live, and I enjoyed it...
I respect everyone's opinion on this, and I'd like to see more opinions.
Hope ya all are well.
Peace,
Lovro
If the ROTS ever tour Australia again, I'd like them to play not only Doors stuff but songs from Ray/Robby solo days.
Like, "Solar Boat" "The Whole Thing Started(that could tear the roof off of any joint)..."
and even from post-morrison doors, Ships w/Sails +Get Up And Dance, you know...
Ghost Song...
You don't have to play all Doors songs all the time.
Like, "Solar Boat" "The Whole Thing Started(that could tear the roof off of any joint)..."
and even from post-morrison doors, Ships w/Sails +Get Up And Dance, you know...
Ghost Song...
You don't have to play all Doors songs all the time.
I think I agree with something from each and every poster on this thread. I've seen them 10 times, and honestly, I'll never be as excited as the first time I saw them in New Jersey followed by New York the next night. It was so unbelievably special back in 2003, and it continued to be so for a long time. But time marches on, and the glories of Paris and London passed, and here we are, 2008, and it is still musicially stunning to listen to, but I sense that even Ray and Robby are tiring at times of playing the same set-lists, give or take the odd inclusion or resting of one or two songs.
If Riders want to persevere, then I suggest that a radical change to the setlist is required, with, as Bland Boy said, songs like Solar Boat, Ships w/ Sails or Downbound Train, or The Mosquito, or In The Eye Of The Sun, or Verdillac. I for one have always said that The Soft Parade as a song is one that deserves a resurrection and re-interpretation from a sufficiently dedicated lead singer. If Brett would consider this, I'm sure he'd enjoy it! It would also go a long way to proving people who doubt Brett's abilities as a 'Doorsian,' or true psychedelic frontman.
I have to be honest, and this is no criticism of Brett. To have Ian as the lead in the band was amazing. Not only an Englishman, but a guy who comes from my part of England - the North West, 30 miles from my front door; we felt honoured and connected to The Doors ever more deeply by Ray and Robby's decision to Anglify The Doors in the way they did with Ian Astbury. I think it was a stunningly spiritual trip with Ian at the helm; you could feel the committment and the love, the depth, and even the grief of not having Jim around, coming from deep with Ian's soul. He'd proven himself a Doors devotee for 20 years before he even took the role on. His resumé for the job was beyond perfect; just look at the video for She Sells Sanctuary and it tells you all you need to know about Ian's understanding of who, and what, Jim Morrison represented. That John never saw that in Ian was John's genuine mistake, not Ian's. I think the objective observer will look back at Ian's time, working with Ray and Robby on The Doors' music as an equal live artistic statement to that which Jim Morrison made from 1965-1971.
Brett has had two gigantic pairs of rock 'n roll boots to fill, and he's had to do it with a slightly less illustrious CV to that of Ian Astbury. That said, his passion for the rock side of The Doors music is pretty fuckin' impressive too. Brett tends to excel within songs like Roadhouse Blues and Five To One and Light My Fire, but where Ian rules the roost is in his expression of 'The Doors-Spiritual;' that special place that is represented within An American Prayer. And as much as I love The Doors on a rock 'n roll level, what makes me believe in them as the greatest band to ever walk this earth is their ability to interpret and provide a religious-spiritual experience for their listeners. Strange Days, Whiskey, Mystics & Men, You're Lost Little Girl, Indian Summer, I Can't See Your Face In My Mind, The End, Take It As It Comes, The Soft Parade, Riders On The Storm, Summer's Almost Gone, The Spy, Queen Of The Highway, Hyacinth House and pieces of work like those are the ones that set The Doors far above the other great artists of the last hundred years. It is in the spiritual side of The Doors that man obtains the divine, in my humble opinion.
Where was I? Oh yeah - they still got it!
PK
If Riders want to persevere, then I suggest that a radical change to the setlist is required, with, as Bland Boy said, songs like Solar Boat, Ships w/ Sails or Downbound Train, or The Mosquito, or In The Eye Of The Sun, or Verdillac. I for one have always said that The Soft Parade as a song is one that deserves a resurrection and re-interpretation from a sufficiently dedicated lead singer. If Brett would consider this, I'm sure he'd enjoy it! It would also go a long way to proving people who doubt Brett's abilities as a 'Doorsian,' or true psychedelic frontman.
I have to be honest, and this is no criticism of Brett. To have Ian as the lead in the band was amazing. Not only an Englishman, but a guy who comes from my part of England - the North West, 30 miles from my front door; we felt honoured and connected to The Doors ever more deeply by Ray and Robby's decision to Anglify The Doors in the way they did with Ian Astbury. I think it was a stunningly spiritual trip with Ian at the helm; you could feel the committment and the love, the depth, and even the grief of not having Jim around, coming from deep with Ian's soul. He'd proven himself a Doors devotee for 20 years before he even took the role on. His resumé for the job was beyond perfect; just look at the video for She Sells Sanctuary and it tells you all you need to know about Ian's understanding of who, and what, Jim Morrison represented. That John never saw that in Ian was John's genuine mistake, not Ian's. I think the objective observer will look back at Ian's time, working with Ray and Robby on The Doors' music as an equal live artistic statement to that which Jim Morrison made from 1965-1971.
Brett has had two gigantic pairs of rock 'n roll boots to fill, and he's had to do it with a slightly less illustrious CV to that of Ian Astbury. That said, his passion for the rock side of The Doors music is pretty fuckin' impressive too. Brett tends to excel within songs like Roadhouse Blues and Five To One and Light My Fire, but where Ian rules the roost is in his expression of 'The Doors-Spiritual;' that special place that is represented within An American Prayer. And as much as I love The Doors on a rock 'n roll level, what makes me believe in them as the greatest band to ever walk this earth is their ability to interpret and provide a religious-spiritual experience for their listeners. Strange Days, Whiskey, Mystics & Men, You're Lost Little Girl, Indian Summer, I Can't See Your Face In My Mind, The End, Take It As It Comes, The Soft Parade, Riders On The Storm, Summer's Almost Gone, The Spy, Queen Of The Highway, Hyacinth House and pieces of work like those are the ones that set The Doors far above the other great artists of the last hundred years. It is in the spiritual side of The Doors that man obtains the divine, in my humble opinion.
Where was I? Oh yeah - they still got it!
PK
They have done The Mosquito and the Soft Parade
soft parade is great
QUOTE(PK The First @ Aug 13 2008, 10:20 PM)
I think I agree with something from each and every poster on this thread. I've seen them 10 times, and honestly, I'll never be as excited as the first time I saw them in New Jersey followed by New York the next night. It was so unbelievably special back in 2003, and it continued to be so for a long time. But time marches on, and the glories of Paris and London passed, and here we are, 2008, and it is still musicially stunning to listen to, but I sense that even Ray and Robby are tiring at times of playing the same set-lists, give or take the odd inclusion or resting of one or two songs.
If Riders want to persevere, then I suggest that a radical change to the setlist is required, with, as Bland Boy said, songs like Solar Boat, Ships w/ Sails or Downbound Train, or The Mosquito, or In The Eye Of The Sun, or Verdillac. I for one have always said that The Soft Parade as a song is one that deserves a resurrection and re-interpretation from a sufficiently dedicated lead singer. If Brett would consider this, I'm sure he'd enjoy it! It would also go a long way to proving people who doubt Brett's abilities as a 'Doorsian,' or true psychedelic frontman.
I have to be honest, and this is no criticism of Brett. To have Ian as the lead in the band was amazing. Not only an Englishman, but a guy who comes from my part of England - the North West, 30 miles from my front door; we felt honoured and connected to The Doors ever more deeply by Ray and Robby's decision to Anglify The Doors in the way they did with Ian Astbury. I think it was a stunningly spiritual trip with Ian at the helm; you could feel the committment and the love, the depth, and even the grief of not having Jim around, coming from deep with Ian's soul. He'd proven himself a Doors devotee for 20 years before he even took the role on. His resumé for the job was beyond perfect; just look at the video for She Sells Sanctuary and it tells you all you need to know about Ian's understanding of who, and what, Jim Morrison represented. That John never saw that in Ian was John's genuine mistake, not Ian's. I think the objective observer will look back at Ian's time, working with Ray and Robby on The Doors' music as an equal live artistic statement to that which Jim Morrison made from 1965-1971.
Brett has had two gigantic pairs of rock 'n roll boots to fill, and he's had to do it with a slightly less illustrious CV to that of Ian Astbury. That said, his passion for the rock side of The Doors music is pretty fuckin' impressive too. Brett tends to excel within songs like Roadhouse Blues and Five To One and Light My Fire, but where Ian rules the roost is in his expression of 'The Doors-Spiritual;' that special place that is represented within An American Prayer. And as much as I love The Doors on a rock 'n roll level, what makes me believe in them as the greatest band to ever walk this earth is their ability to interpret and provide a religious-spiritual experience for their listeners. Strange Days, Whiskey, Mystics & Men, You're Lost Little Girl, Indian Summer, I Can't See Your Face In My Mind, The End, Take It As It Comes, The Soft Parade, Riders On The Storm, Summer's Almost Gone, The Spy, Queen Of The Highway, Hyacinth House and pieces of work like those are the ones that set The Doors far above the other great artists of the last hundred years. It is in the spiritual side of The Doors that man obtains the divine, in my humble opinion.
Where was I? Oh yeah - they still got it!
PK
If Riders want to persevere, then I suggest that a radical change to the setlist is required, with, as Bland Boy said, songs like Solar Boat, Ships w/ Sails or Downbound Train, or The Mosquito, or In The Eye Of The Sun, or Verdillac. I for one have always said that The Soft Parade as a song is one that deserves a resurrection and re-interpretation from a sufficiently dedicated lead singer. If Brett would consider this, I'm sure he'd enjoy it! It would also go a long way to proving people who doubt Brett's abilities as a 'Doorsian,' or true psychedelic frontman.
I have to be honest, and this is no criticism of Brett. To have Ian as the lead in the band was amazing. Not only an Englishman, but a guy who comes from my part of England - the North West, 30 miles from my front door; we felt honoured and connected to The Doors ever more deeply by Ray and Robby's decision to Anglify The Doors in the way they did with Ian Astbury. I think it was a stunningly spiritual trip with Ian at the helm; you could feel the committment and the love, the depth, and even the grief of not having Jim around, coming from deep with Ian's soul. He'd proven himself a Doors devotee for 20 years before he even took the role on. His resumé for the job was beyond perfect; just look at the video for She Sells Sanctuary and it tells you all you need to know about Ian's understanding of who, and what, Jim Morrison represented. That John never saw that in Ian was John's genuine mistake, not Ian's. I think the objective observer will look back at Ian's time, working with Ray and Robby on The Doors' music as an equal live artistic statement to that which Jim Morrison made from 1965-1971.
Brett has had two gigantic pairs of rock 'n roll boots to fill, and he's had to do it with a slightly less illustrious CV to that of Ian Astbury. That said, his passion for the rock side of The Doors music is pretty fuckin' impressive too. Brett tends to excel within songs like Roadhouse Blues and Five To One and Light My Fire, but where Ian rules the roost is in his expression of 'The Doors-Spiritual;' that special place that is represented within An American Prayer. And as much as I love The Doors on a rock 'n roll level, what makes me believe in them as the greatest band to ever walk this earth is their ability to interpret and provide a religious-spiritual experience for their listeners. Strange Days, Whiskey, Mystics & Men, You're Lost Little Girl, Indian Summer, I Can't See Your Face In My Mind, The End, Take It As It Comes, The Soft Parade, Riders On The Storm, Summer's Almost Gone, The Spy, Queen Of The Highway, Hyacinth House and pieces of work like those are the ones that set The Doors far above the other great artists of the last hundred years. It is in the spiritual side of The Doors that man obtains the divine, in my humble opinion.
Where was I? Oh yeah - they still got it!
PK
Great post bro.
QUOTE(lovro @ Aug 11 2008, 06:30 AM)
I know a lot of you will agree with me on this...
With all due respect to both Ian and Brett, ROTS are getting boring and depriving allready. For 6 years, they have been doing shows with the same setlist, band introductions, song introductions and conversations between songs.
Maybe Ray and Robby do technically play better these days, but they don't have the magic of the Doors anymore. They are just like any Doors tribute band.
And you know why is that? Because they are doing it for money. Ian once said "It's all from the heart"... maybe it was for him, as he's not a person that cares only for the money, and even if he did, he could have stayed with the Cult as well... but for Ray and Robby it was the money, and I'm sure John would join them too if he didn't have tinitus...
I think Ian and Brett both did a great job, but I'm kinda sick of it. I saw them 54 times, and I think that's it for me. The Doors are dead, and Riders are just like any Doors tribute band with two real Doors members.
With all due respect to both Ian and Brett, ROTS are getting boring and depriving allready. For 6 years, they have been doing shows with the same setlist, band introductions, song introductions and conversations between songs.
Maybe Ray and Robby do technically play better these days, but they don't have the magic of the Doors anymore. They are just like any Doors tribute band.
And you know why is that? Because they are doing it for money. Ian once said "It's all from the heart"... maybe it was for him, as he's not a person that cares only for the money, and even if he did, he could have stayed with the Cult as well... but for Ray and Robby it was the money, and I'm sure John would join them too if he didn't have tinitus...
I think Ian and Brett both did a great job, but I'm kinda sick of it. I saw them 54 times, and I think that's it for me. The Doors are dead, and Riders are just like any Doors tribute band with two real Doors members.
No offense, but 54 concerts over six years of anybody gets old. I'd be lying if I said that I was never "Doors'd-Out". Take a break, brother...hope to see you down the road.
Your entitled to your opinion.
I respectfully disagree.
PEACE
In Spirit-Light
Raven
well yeah, anything like 50 times will make you sick of anything. this will be my 6th show (second with brett), and i know that i personally prefer ian to brett for a virtual list of reasons, but going to the shows now is great and fun and still exhilarating because the music is amazing and the audience sings louder than brett sometimes, such is the energy in the room. of course ill never be as excited as my first show, but its still standing in the presence of legends, listening to music that changed my life. i dont know if i would assume ray and robby are only doing it for the money, but i know the thrill i get hearing this music live. 50 times in the span of a few years? yeah, id probably be sick of it, too.
when the music's over, turn off the lights. im not turning them off until ray and robby decide to stop the music, so in the meantime, ill see you guys in september.
when the music's over, turn off the lights. im not turning them off until ray and robby decide to stop the music, so in the meantime, ill see you guys in september.
QUOTE(lovro @ Aug 11 2008, 11:30 AM)
I know a lot of you will agree with me on this...
With all due respect to both Ian and Brett, ROTS are getting boring and depriving allready. For 6 years, they have been doing shows with the same setlist, band introductions, song introductions and conversations between songs.
Maybe Ray and Robby do technically play better these days, but they don't have the magic of the Doors anymore. They are just like any Doors tribute band.
And you know why is that? Because they are doing it for money. Ian once said "It's all from the heart"... maybe it was for him, as he's not a person that cares only for the money, and even if he did, he could have stayed with the Cult as well... but for Ray and Robby it was the money, and I'm sure John would join them too if he didn't have tinitus...
I think Ian and Brett both did a great job, but I'm kinda sick of it. I saw them 54 times, and I think that's it for me. The Doors are dead, and Riders are just like any Doors tribute band with two real Doors members.
With all due respect to both Ian and Brett, ROTS are getting boring and depriving allready. For 6 years, they have been doing shows with the same setlist, band introductions, song introductions and conversations between songs.
Maybe Ray and Robby do technically play better these days, but they don't have the magic of the Doors anymore. They are just like any Doors tribute band.
And you know why is that? Because they are doing it for money. Ian once said "It's all from the heart"... maybe it was for him, as he's not a person that cares only for the money, and even if he did, he could have stayed with the Cult as well... but for Ray and Robby it was the money, and I'm sure John would join them too if he didn't have tinitus...
I think Ian and Brett both did a great job, but I'm kinda sick of it. I saw them 54 times, and I think that's it for me. The Doors are dead, and Riders are just like any Doors tribute band with two real Doors members.
A........ I really don't think you have seen them 54 times.
B.........List them. I've seen 12 and some people think that's a bit obsessive.
C.........Of course the original magic is gone. It's been gone for a long time.
D.........It's been said a million plus times, but to see Ray and Robby play 2 hours of the music that you supposedly love or else you wouldn't spend time on a Doors related website is a fanatastic experience. I really cannot say that any of the 12 shows I've been to have dissapointed me in the least.
lovro must be a disgruntled roadie.
have riders even played 54 shows?
tell you what bro, when you're in your upper 60's, lets see if you can merely get an erection on your own let alone find the magic to play some of the best music ever recorded at precisely 9 pm every night.
54 times - what a crock of shit. that's like going to see the same movie 54 times and then bitch about the ending never changing.
someday ray and robby will be hanging up the tour for good, and none of us here want to remember your comments, so please just shut the fuck up!
have riders even played 54 shows?
tell you what bro, when you're in your upper 60's, lets see if you can merely get an erection on your own let alone find the magic to play some of the best music ever recorded at precisely 9 pm every night.
54 times - what a crock of shit. that's like going to see the same movie 54 times and then bitch about the ending never changing.
someday ray and robby will be hanging up the tour for good, and none of us here want to remember your comments, so please just shut the fuck up!
I thought they kicked ass last night. I loved them doing Soft Parade. I was excited for the show last night and if I was going to a show again tonight I would be excited. And I have been to 400 of their shows.
I thought you had been ta 401 dot you fibber.
QUOTE(dot @ Sep 28 2008, 07:05 PM)
I thought they kicked ass last night. I loved them doing Soft Parade. I was excited for the show last night and if I was going to a show again tonight I would be excited. And I have been to 400 of their shows.
Fuck.you got us beat by 388 Dot.
Ok folks... here's the list:
2003
December:
Benidorm
Lisbon – two shows
Paris – two shows
London
Brussels
Birmingham
Hollywood, California
2004
July:
Brussels
Weert
London
Manchester
Dublin
Glasgow
September:
Pomona
Jackpot, Nevada
New York
December:
Anaheim
2005
July:
Temecula
December:
San Francisco
Reno
Boise
Spokane
2006
Aprill:
Ĺrhus
Dublin,
Berlin
Amsterdam
Dortmund
Frankfurt
2007
January:
Paris
Wolverhampton
Manchester
Amsterdam
Copenhagen
Oslo
Antwerp
Zurich
San Sebastian
Lisbon
Valencia
May:
Chicago
Glenside
Boston
New York
Norfolk
Torronto
Detroit
June:
London
South Hampton
July:
Paris
St. Polten
Budapest
2008
July:
London
2003
December:
Benidorm
Lisbon – two shows
Paris – two shows
London
Brussels
Birmingham
Hollywood, California
2004
July:
Brussels
Weert
London
Manchester
Dublin
Glasgow
September:
Pomona
Jackpot, Nevada
New York
December:
Anaheim
2005
July:
Temecula
December:
San Francisco
Reno
Boise
Spokane
2006
Aprill:
Ĺrhus
Dublin,
Berlin
Amsterdam
Dortmund
Frankfurt
2007
January:
Paris
Wolverhampton
Manchester
Amsterdam
Copenhagen
Oslo
Antwerp
Zurich
San Sebastian
Lisbon
Valencia
May:
Chicago
Glenside
Boston
New York
Norfolk
Torronto
Detroit
June:
London
South Hampton
July:
Paris
St. Polten
Budapest
2008
July:
London
fuckin' smartass... who cares! the bottom line is ray and robby have alot of balls for touring and laying it on the line night after night - they do it for the fans. I resent your remarks and this entire thread. What a shitty comment to make during one of their tours. Most of us on this board are friends that get together at shows, hang out and have a good time - the music is always good. take a break from the next tour (if there is one).
Nice try and although it might say so on the North American Tour 07 t-shirt there was NO SHOW in Toronto in 2007.
I have been to 9 shows (that's nine real shows that actually happened, that I was actually at) and for me each one has been better and more magical than the one before.
I got the chance to be on stage with Riders on the Storm in Chicago!!! I was able to thank Ray and Robby personally for giving me the amazing opportunity to see them live 9 times!!! That to me is magic! real magic!. Not to mention the amazing Doors fans I met at the shows, wow such kind caring people (you know who you are) there is magic in that too.
I will not waste anymore time on this silly subject, instead I will finish uploading my pics from the shows so I can share them with people who will think they are as magical as I do!
I have been to 9 shows (that's nine real shows that actually happened, that I was actually at) and for me each one has been better and more magical than the one before.
I got the chance to be on stage with Riders on the Storm in Chicago!!! I was able to thank Ray and Robby personally for giving me the amazing opportunity to see them live 9 times!!! That to me is magic! real magic!. Not to mention the amazing Doors fans I met at the shows, wow such kind caring people (you know who you are) there is magic in that too.
I will not waste anymore time on this silly subject, instead I will finish uploading my pics from the shows so I can share them with people who will think they are as magical as I do!
QUOTE(lovro @ Sep 30 2008, 08:04 PM)
Ok folks... here's the list:
2003
December:
Benidorm
Lisbon – two shows
Paris – two shows
London
Brussels
Birmingham
Hollywood, California
2004
July:
Brussels
Weert
London
Manchester
Dublin
Glasgow
September:
Pomona
Jackpot, Nevada
New York
December:
Anaheim
2005
July:
Temecula
December:
San Francisco
Reno
Boise
Spokane
2006
Aprill:
Ĺrhus
Dublin,
Berlin
Amsterdam
Dortmund
Frankfurt
2007
January:
Paris
Wolverhampton
Manchester
Amsterdam
Copenhagen
Oslo
Antwerp
Zurich
San Sebastian
Lisbon
Valencia
May:
Chicago
Glenside
Boston
New York
Norfolk
Torronto
Detroit
June:
London
South Hampton
July:
Paris
St. Polten
Budapest
2008
July:
London
2003
December:
Benidorm
Lisbon – two shows
Paris – two shows
London
Brussels
Birmingham
Hollywood, California
2004
July:
Brussels
Weert
London
Manchester
Dublin
Glasgow
September:
Pomona
Jackpot, Nevada
New York
December:
Anaheim
2005
July:
Temecula
December:
San Francisco
Reno
Boise
Spokane
2006
Aprill:
Ĺrhus
Dublin,
Berlin
Amsterdam
Dortmund
Frankfurt
2007
January:
Paris
Wolverhampton
Manchester
Amsterdam
Copenhagen
Oslo
Antwerp
Zurich
San Sebastian
Lisbon
Valencia
May:
Chicago
Glenside
Boston
New York
Norfolk
Torronto
Detroit
June:
London
South Hampton
July:
Paris
St. Polten
Budapest
2008
July:
London
Oh yeah, the Tornonto show was canceled. I made the list of the shows I planned to go, before I saw them, so I didn't see them 54 but 53 times. Forgot to put it out of the list.
QUOTE(lovro @ Oct 1 2008, 08:26 AM)
Oh yeah, the Tornonto show was canceled. I made the list of the shows I planned to go, before I saw them, so I didn't see them 54 but 53 times. Forgot to put it out of the list.
Far be it from me to question you, but they never played in a city in England called South Hampton. The city in question is called Southampton - all one word, a mistake I pointed out to the people who listed that gig incorrectly on the ROTS website and on the tour thread here that had it on at the time. I'm not saying you haven't seen 53 shows (I'm sure you have), but do yourself a favour - the internet is a paranoid place at the best of times, and claiming 54 shows, one of which didn't happen and one of which you've spelled incorrectly due to cutting and pasting from another website, is the kind of thing which leaves you liable to being accused of being something less than truthful!!! Like I say, I don't doubt you've done 53 shows - it's the only possible way you could come close to saying you're tired of the music in some way!
Seriously though dude, if you've been to Southampton, you only need be there 5 minutes to realise the place's name is spelled 'Southampton' and not 'South Hampton' - there isn't a county in England called 'Hampton' hence there couldn't be a South Hampton. No disrespect, but it's a mistake only a non-British person could make!!! lol
Well done though for 53 gigs. I bow my humble gig hat to you, good sir, and I hope you re-discover the magic that we all have. I have times of doubt about the magic myself sometimes, but my heart knows this band are one of the few living definitions of musical magic. If you want ROTS standard of magic, I can count the other bands/artists capable of it on one hand who are alive and touring today; in my humble opinion, they include Mercury Rev, The Shins, The Decemberists, Rilo Kiley and Jenny Lewis. We lost Arthur Lee in the past couple of years otherwise I'd have put him on that list too. Ditto Elliott Smith. Oh yeah, and The Electric Prunes and The Seeds when they toured back in 2003. Actually, make it two hands, 'cos I'm shoving The Arcade Fire on the list, along with The White Stripes and god, how could I forget Neil Young?!?! Two hands, and one spare finger...
Yep, I think that's my magic list:
The Doors/ROTS
Mercury Rev
The Shins
The Decemberists
Rilo Kiley - Jenny Lewis
Arthur Lee (god rest his soul)
Elliott Smith
The Electric Prunes
The Seeds
The Arcade Fire
Neil Young
The greatest performers in my lifetime; watch everyone of those, and then you get to know 'The Magic' if you ask me!
Peace,
Daniel PK
QUOTE(lovro @ Aug 11 2008, 04:30 AM)
I know a lot of you will agree with me on this...
With all due respect to both Ian and Brett, ROTS are getting boring and depriving allready. For 6 years, they have been doing shows with the same setlist, band introductions, song introductions and conversations between songs.
Maybe Ray and Robby do technically play better these days, but they don't have the magic of the Doors anymore. They are just like any Doors tribute band.
And you know why is that? Because they are doing it for money. Ian once said "It's all from the heart"... maybe it was for him, as he's not a person that cares only for the money, and even if he did, he could have stayed with the Cult as well... but for Ray and Robby it was the money, and I'm sure John would join them too if he didn't have tinitus...
I think Ian and Brett both did a great job, but I'm kinda sick of it. I saw them 54 times, and I think that's it for me. The Doors are dead, and Riders are just like any Doors tribute band with two real Doors members.
With all due respect to both Ian and Brett, ROTS are getting boring and depriving allready. For 6 years, they have been doing shows with the same setlist, band introductions, song introductions and conversations between songs.
Maybe Ray and Robby do technically play better these days, but they don't have the magic of the Doors anymore. They are just like any Doors tribute band.
And you know why is that? Because they are doing it for money. Ian once said "It's all from the heart"... maybe it was for him, as he's not a person that cares only for the money, and even if he did, he could have stayed with the Cult as well... but for Ray and Robby it was the money, and I'm sure John would join them too if he didn't have tinitus...
I think Ian and Brett both did a great job, but I'm kinda sick of it. I saw them 54 times, and I think that's it for me. The Doors are dead, and Riders are just like any Doors tribute band with two real Doors members.
How about seeing them 55 times? Because I haven't been able to see them play at all. To say that they are doing it for the money sounds familiar; JDM was quoted of saying that
I do think Ray is the reason that The Doors ever existed. He found Jim and put that band together. Refereed (between drummer and singer) Then I realized where all their positives songs came from.
Robby. And their greatest hits. There goes my hereos. Thanks for The ROTS info. Jamie.
I agree with the L. A. woman. I have seen +met Ray, Robbie 3 times, and I will continue to listen til its time to brake on through. If Riders come through Vancouver area again ,I will be there. Rock on Jamie.
LOVE the Doors man... they're one of my favourite bands in the whole world. I never EVER imagined I would actually see them live. I've seen them twice... once with Ian Astbury and once with Brett Scallions. The first time I saw them live was with Ian Astbury and to this day I have never seen a gig like it. Definitly a gig to remember. It was the best gig I've ever been to... it was magickal. Personally I think they should have stopped after Ian Astbury quit. No harm to Brett but I think they should've stopped after that. There's only one other guy I can think of who would have been a brilliant replacement if he was still alive... Michael Hutchence. And I think I may have said this on another thread on this site. I'm not one here very often and when I am on here I think I have a thing about repeating myself, LOL.
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