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Dance On Fire
I've heard that Juarez, Mexico was added to the list but have yet to see it added on this site...
Is it true they are going to play in this very poor, very dangerous little city that is across the boarder to El Paso, Texas?

October 2 - Auditorio Nacional - Mexico City, Mexico
October 4 - Arena de Monterrey - Monterrey, Mexico
October 6 - Domo de La Feria - Leon City, Mexico



I grew up in that boarder city of El Paso... and I know Juarez pretty well.... I still have family and friends in that area and was told that there was an article in the El Paso Sun Times that Riders were going to play there... and it surprised me at first because I just can't imagine them playing in such a place where there is extreme poverty and is a well known city where drug trafficing is a major issue along with a high murder rate. This city has always been known for it's corrupt police officers so it just amazes me that they have chosen this venue.

peace
jodi
Cienega32
I'm in Juarez every weekend, (leaving the chaos and disorder - back there, over my shoulder...) since I moved to New Mexico 2 years ago, and while I agree with your sentiments regarding the poverty and crime, I've never had a problem and I tend to lean towards what most people would call "the seedy part of the city". As with any city, some areas are more prone to crime than others. Mexico itself encourages the poverty levels as the elite class seem to "run things" there.

I learned of the concert at the last minute - as did many others. Whether it was due to a last minute announcement, I'm unsure but on this side of the border, it wasn't very well advertised and tickets could be purchase at only one outlet, which was a hassle. In Juarez, they had posters tied to every other street lite pole. They were also selling tables for 4 at different prices determined by distance from the smallish stage which was setup around 2nd base. My seat was 2nd level behind home plate - 5 rows from one of the many ice-cold beer vendors with a clear, unobstructed view. It was just like a ball game, with all the food and drink vendors running the aisles. It's a pretty cool stadium with the mountains and the lights depicting the face of Benito Juarez on the side of them in plain view.

Transportation to Carta Blanca was provided for $10 round trip by comfortable, air conditioned charter coach type vehicles.

The concert itself didn't transpire as announced in the "General Info" at the ticket outlet:

Gates open at 7pm
Guest Music at 9pm
The Doors perform 10:30pm-1am

I arrived around 8pm. There was no "Guest music" - only pre-recorded American music played thru the sound system. By 9:30, people were getting a bit restless and ROTS kicked off at about 9:45 with a "Viva La Mexico!" and "From Los Angeles, California..." and breaking into Love Me Two Times.
The next tune - Break On Thru - had the folks in the stands climbing the 6 or 7 foot chainlink fence that's on top of the 5 foot wall and filling the infield and those "special tables". At this point was when people started getting thrown off the stage. "George Bush - gotta get high!".

I've never attended a ROTS show before and it seemed like the crowd was more centered on the "Legend of Morrison" than the ROTS show and Ray played right into it with perfect time. "Jim Morrison got high..." during the "She get high" portion. A poster of Morrison was handed to the singer who cooly hung it on the bass drum and then the Morrison focal point took off. Whether or not it was the general fare for a ROTS or for Mexican Doors fans, I don't know.

"Muy loco, muy loco, Ciudad Juarez!!!" preceded Strange Days which was followed by Waiting For The Sun. WFTS seemed to lack that dramatic bottom end that puncuates the song thru-out. By this time the air was filled with the aroma of "...that good ole Mexican marijuana" and When The Music's Over joind it. They pulled that off great but when they got to the "What have they done to the Earth" segment... WOW! Nice effects, very trippy, very cool. It even raised my eyebrows. Perfect electronic chaos that brought out the point.

The band intro followed WTMO.
Peace Frog-Blue Sunday
A little "Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole - Ole - Ole" chant came before The Soft Parade - which was NICELY done.
A little tribute to Robbie's Flamenco skills before a Spanish Caravan segment that included "The Mosquito"

Soft Parade had my the beer on full-flow mode... camera batts were running out... memory cards were filling rapidly and I pretty much was too involved with the ambient setting than what was actually played. That marked it as a successful concert, by my standards.

"I think" after Spanish Caravan, an outstanding Whiskey Bar followed then Backdoor Man - which was great. It ain't chicken that the singer eats more than any man ever seen.

A "Tribute to James Brown" Sex Machine followed Backdoor Man with another bit by Ray invoking the crowd's Morrison train of thought.
"We're gonna do it for our own sex machine - Jim Morrison! I said, Jim Morrison! (while the singer points to that poster on the bass drum) The sex machine- a god, he's a god, he's JIM MORRISON!". While Robby was off to the side looking patient, my 55 year old, Doors fan from the start senses felt it was a bit corny but the crowd enjoyed it and I guess that was the whole point behind it...

"And now our own sex machine, Ty Dennis - he's gonna fuck yer asses right now, man!".

Man, he is great on the skins and seamless but, at times, I wondered how having those little Densmore influences would play out. Only natural, I guess...

Machine fed into Touch Me and then came an outstanding L.A. Woman (my section's beer vendor was boogieing his ass off to that tune) that was followed by the band leaving the stage - pre-encore. On their return, the singer takes something from a fan - "Wow, this is all fucked up - this actually has tobacco in it!" Of course, that was met with a round of well-deserved boos for the fan.

Just after I said, "I just don't want to hear Light My Fire..." Ray comes up with "Here's a song by Robbie Krieger - Encienda Mi Fuego". Hey, it's a great song and they did it great. Robbie was outstanding, as usual, but I needed my Roadhouse Blues fix. Something, anything.

They took their final bow and left the stage at around 11:40pm and then it was the charter-coach bus back to El Centro for some clubs and chicas before settling in for the nite.

An outstanding show, for the most part. A little corny with the Morrison center-piece from time to time but that's who the Doors made infamous, right? Why not play into it. This new singer has dynamics. It seemed like he was having a good time with it all and while there were definite shades of the original singer in his performance, he brought his own style to it all and pulled it off great, IMHO, as far as being the mike-man. It's a tight band, overall but Krieger... he is just outstanding and gets better every time I hear him play. They're ALL great, in their own right but my preferences lend themselves to guitarists.

Oh wait - I forgot the point of the whole post: Juarez ain't as bad as it's portrayed. Myself, I would rather be there than Mexico City, as far as perceived images of crime, corruption and the Leftist Revolution in full-tilt but I guess it's all a matter of perspective.






longstrangetrip8
good review
Jimbo
really hope a recording of at least one of the Mexico shows surfaces
Cienega32
QUOTE(Jimbo @ Oct 7 2007, 10:38 AM) *
really hope a recording of at least one of the Mexico shows surfaces

Well, I sure as hell hope a nice clean one of the Juarez gig makes it.

A couple of points that I forgot that were interesting:

Thru-out a few songs, there was a handful of children of the 10 year variety, doing that old, classic "Indian dance" style of Morrison's along the 3rd base line. I thought about that while I watched them and finished with "Mestizos... Indians... they do that stuff... it's THEIR stuff..." and was pretty neat to watch. Of course their step-time was more than perfect.

The other was that at one point, the singer asked "Are we gonna fuck around and have some fun tonite or are we sticking to the set?". Ray blandly responded with, "Nah, we're gonna stick to the set." It almost seemed as if "they" just wanted to play and leave. Looking back at the played tunes, and more importantly, what WASN'T played, I'm sure they/Ray just wanted to get up and out. Reading thru some other set reviews at other venues, this one was definitly lacking in overall substance - as far as a few staple songs not being played and only one encore tune of the typical LMF. A good show, never the less.

Riders On The Storm wasn't played by Riders On The Storm?
No 5 To 1? No Roadhouse Blues?


And I forgot to mention "Love Her Madly" was played in there somewhere and that was another tune that the beer hawker had a boogie on to. I think that was the only one I forgot but I know they didn't play those other 3 - I was waiting for those.

It was funny - this 50ish Mexican dude in my seat aisle bought me a beer for no reason. I bought him two back during Spanish Caravan - it was pretty cool - everyone was just friendly and having a great time. After the show I said "What? No Roadhouse Blues???" and he said "I wanted them to play 9 To 5!" After laughing at my mental image of the singer donning a pair of Dolly Partonesque bolt-ons, I corrected him to 5 To 1.

And the Centauros MC attended in force with a "Lost Brother" black tape on their colors. Nice guys that enjoyed the show. They must have had 50 or more bikes parked outside and after the show it was cool to watch/hear them slide into the shadows of the warm Juarez nite.
trevormcd
QUOTE(Cienega32 @ Oct 7 2007, 08:40 PM) *
Well, I sure as hell hope a nice clean one of the Juarez gig makes it.

A couple of points that I forgot that were interesting:

Thru-out a few songs, there was a handful of children of the 10 year variety, doing that old, classic "Indian dance" style of Morrison's along the 3rd base line. I thought about that while I watched them and finished with "Mestizos... Indians... they do that stuff... it's THEIR stuff..." and was pretty neat to watch. Of course their step-time was more than perfect.

The other was that at one point, the singer asked "Are we gonna fuck around and have some fun tonite or are we sticking to the set?". Ray blandly responded with, "Nah, we're gonna stick to the set." It almost seemed as if "they" just wanted to play and leave. Looking back at the played tunes, and more importantly, what WASN'T played, I'm sure they/Ray just wanted to get up and out. Reading thru some other set reviews at other venues, this one was definitly lacking in overall substance - as far as a few staple songs not being played and only one encore tune of the typical LMF. A good show, never the less.

Riders On The Storm wasn't played by Riders On The Storm?
No 5 To 1? No Roadhouse Blues?
And I forgot to mention "Love Her Madly" was played in there somewhere and that was another tune that the beer hawker had a boogie on to. I think that was the only one I forgot but I know they didn't play those other 3 - I was waiting for those.

It was funny - this 50ish Mexican dude in my seat aisle bought me a beer for no reason. I bought him two back during Spanish Caravan - it was pretty cool - everyone was just friendly and having a great time. After the show I said "What? No Roadhouse Blues???" and he said "I wanted them to play 9 To 5!" After laughing at my mental image of the singer donning a pair of Dolly Partonesque bolt-ons, I corrected him to 5 To 1.

And the Centauros MC attended in force with a "Lost Brother" black tape on their colors. Nice guys that enjoyed the show. They must have had 50 or more bikes parked outside and after the show it was cool to watch/hear them slide into the shadows of the warm Juarez nite.

trevormcd
that sounded like one hell of a good show may there be many more to come
gazza
Sound like it was a great show.
Dance On Fire
QUOTE(Cienega32 @ Oct 6 2007, 07:33 PM) *
I'm in Juarez every weekend, (leaving the chaos and disorder - back there, over my shoulder...) since I moved to New Mexico 2 years ago, and while I agree with your sentiments regarding the poverty and crime, I've never had a problem and I tend to lean towards what most people would call "the seedy part of the city". As with any city, some areas are more prone to crime than others. Mexico itself encourages the poverty levels as the elite class seem to "run things" there.

I learned of the concert at the last minute - as did many others. Whether it was due to a last minute announcement, I'm unsure but on this side of the border, it wasn't very well advertised and tickets could be purchase at only one outlet, which was a hassle. In Juarez, they had posters tied to every other street lite pole. They were also selling tables for 4 at different prices determined by distance from the smallish stage which was setup around 2nd base. My seat was 2nd level behind home plate - 5 rows from one of the many ice-cold beer vendors with a clear, unobstructed view. It was just like a ball game, with all the food and drink vendors running the aisles. It's a pretty cool stadium with the mountains and the lights depicting the face of Benito Juarez on the side of them in plain view.

Transportation to Carta Blanca was provided for $10 round trip by comfortable, air conditioned charter coach type vehicles.

The concert itself didn't transpire as announced in the "General Info" at the ticket outlet:

Gates open at 7pm
Guest Music at 9pm
The Doors perform 10:30pm-1am

I arrived around 8pm. There was no "Guest music" - only pre-recorded American music played thru the sound system. By 9:30, people were getting a bit restless and ROTS kicked off at about 9:45 with a "Viva La Mexico!" and "From Los Angeles, California..." and breaking into Love Me Two Times.
The next tune - Break On Thru - had the folks in the stands climbing the 6 or 7 foot chainlink fence that's on top of the 5 foot wall and filling the infield and those "special tables". At this point was when people started getting thrown off the stage. "George Bush - gotta get high!".

I've never attended a ROTS show before and it seemed like the crowd was more centered on the "Legend of Morrison" than the ROTS show and Ray played right into it with perfect time. "Jim Morrison got high..." during the "She get high" portion. A poster of Morrison was handed to the singer who cooly hung it on the bass drum and then the Morrison focal point took off. Whether or not it was the general fare for a ROTS or for Mexican Doors fans, I don't know.

"Muy loco, muy loco, Ciudad Juarez!!!" preceded Strange Days which was followed by Waiting For The Sun. WFTS seemed to lack that dramatic bottom end that puncuates the song thru-out. By this time the air was filled with the aroma of "...that good ole Mexican marijuana" and When The Music's Over joind it. They pulled that off great but when they got to the "What have they done to the Earth" segment... WOW! Nice effects, very trippy, very cool. It even raised my eyebrows. Perfect electronic chaos that brought out the point.

The band intro followed WTMO.
Peace Frog-Blue Sunday
A little "Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole - Ole - Ole" chant came before The Soft Parade - which was NICELY done.
A little tribute to Robbie's Flamenco skills before a Spanish Caravan segment that included "The Mosquito"

Soft Parade had my the beer on full-flow mode... camera batts were running out... memory cards were filling rapidly and I pretty much was too involved with the ambient setting than what was actually played. That marked it as a successful concert, by my standards.

"I think" after Spanish Caravan, an outstanding Whiskey Bar followed then Backdoor Man - which was great. It ain't chicken that the singer eats more than any man ever seen.

A "Tribute to James Brown" Sex Machine followed Backdoor Man with another bit by Ray invoking the crowd's Morrison train of thought.
"We're gonna do it for our own sex machine - Jim Morrison! I said, Jim Morrison! (while the singer points to that poster on the bass drum) The sex machine- a god, he's a god, he's JIM MORRISON!". While Robby was off to the side looking patient, my 55 year old, Doors fan from the start senses felt it was a bit corny but the crowd enjoyed it and I guess that was the whole point behind it...

"And now our own sex machine, Ty Dennis - he's gonna fuck yer asses right now, man!".

Man, he is great on the skins and seamless but, at times, I wondered how having those little Densmore influences would play out. Only natural, I guess...

Machine fed into Touch Me and then came an outstanding L.A. Woman (my section's beer vendor was boogieing his ass off to that tune) that was followed by the band leaving the stage - pre-encore. On their return, the singer takes something from a fan - "Wow, this is all fucked up - this actually has tobacco in it!" Of course, that was met with a round of well-deserved boos for the fan.

Just after I said, "I just don't want to hear Light My Fire..." Ray comes up with "Here's a song by Robbie Krieger - Encienda Mi Fuego". Hey, it's a great song and they did it great. Robbie was outstanding, as usual, but I needed my Roadhouse Blues fix. Something, anything.

They took their final bow and left the stage at around 11:40pm and then it was the charter-coach bus back to El Centro for some clubs and chicas before settling in for the nite.

An outstanding show, for the most part. A little corny with the Morrison center-piece from time to time but that's who the Doors made infamous, right? Why not play into it. This new singer has dynamics. It seemed like he was having a good time with it all and while there were definite shades of the original singer in his performance, he brought his own style to it all and pulled it off great, IMHO, as far as being the mike-man. It's a tight band, overall but Krieger... he is just outstanding and gets better every time I hear him play. They're ALL great, in their own right but my preferences lend themselves to guitarists.

Oh wait - I forgot the point of the whole post: Juarez ain't as bad as it's portrayed. Myself, I would rather be there than Mexico City, as far as perceived images of crime, corruption and the Leftist Revolution in full-tilt but I guess it's all a matter of perspective.


Wow... it sounds like it was a great night!
Wonderful review... did you get any photos?
Cienega32
QUOTE(Dance On Fire @ Oct 12 2007, 10:25 AM) *
Wow... it sounds like it was a great night!
Wonderful review... did you get any photos?

Not so much with photos (blurry for the most part) but I'm uploading a short vid to YouTube as I type. Just the start, a tiny bit of Love Me 2 Times and all of Break on Thru to the "Muy loco, muy loco" thing of Ray's at the end of it.

I've never uploaded anything to YouTube before, very rarely do anything with MOV files and haven't used my edit software in 3 years. The right to left winds that nite provided some poor audio (drums got real faded out) so a little playing with that was needed. If it comes out decent, I'll try to do more. After seeing one or two really bad cell-phone vids on there, it shouldn't be too bad.

I looked at some other Mexico shows and it seems as if Juarez was the only one that had 1/2 dozen or so security types on stage, throwing people off. That may have been why it seemed (to me) that it was a "play the set and split" routine. That and the stage smoke blowing into Ray's face...

After watching some of that Juarez show again, it seems the singer has some sort of "River Dance" affliction from time to time.
Cienega32
It's not great but I've seen worse footage...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkT-mKZn8Bg
Cienega32

Uno mas - Whiskey Bar-Backdoor Man-Sex Machine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9otMNRdNqo
Dance On Fire
Cool! Thanks for posting those!
elzombomx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6u1OFqF7wo

Thank you Manzarek, Krieger and Riders On The Storm
This Show was incredible!! even for a poor little town..
check what robbie said! biggrin.gif
mystery train
QUOTE(elzombomx @ Nov 5 2007, 05:42 AM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6u1OFqF7wo

Thank you Manzarek, Krieger and Riders On The Storm
This Show was incredible!! even for a poor little town..
check what robbie said! biggrin.gif


great video man! thanks for posting
Raven
QUOTE(elzombomx @ Nov 4 2007, 09:42 PM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6u1OFqF7wo

Thank you Manzarek, Krieger and Riders On The Storm
This Show was incredible!! even for a poor little town..
check what robbie said! biggrin.gif



GREAT VIDEOS!!!
Not a "poor little town" at all.
You are truly rich in spirit-soul!!!

PEACE
In Spirit-Light
Raven
gazza
QUOTE(elzombomx @ Nov 5 2007, 04:42 AM) *
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6u1OFqF7wo

Thank you Manzarek, Krieger and Riders On The Storm
This Show was incredible!! even for a poor little town..
check what robbie said! biggrin.gif




Great footage.
gazza
Wow those mexico shows look great all the crowd climbing over the wall and stuff proper madness.
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