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Jan 20 2007, 06:47 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 11 |
Not trying to start rumors, just sharing this link.. whatdya think?
QUOTE HG: Speaking of the Doors, can you bring us up to speed on Riders On the Storm? Ray Manzarek: We’re going out in 2007, celebrate the fortieth anniversary of the Doors, worldwide, but not consecutive like the Stones. I don’t know why Mick Jagger feels the need to do that… With us, it’ll be “Forty Cities/Forty Years”: ten in the Orient, ten in South America, ten in Europe, and ten in the U.S., concluding in New Orleans, where The Doors last played with Jim [in April ‘71]. HG: Will this be the last tour? Ray Manzarek: This may be it, man. This may be it. 10 down 30 to go ? Interview with Ray |
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Jan 20 2007, 10:25 PM
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Golden Days Diamond Nights ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,287 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Morrison Hotel Member No.: 18 |
Nice find
they did 13 in Europe so hopefully they can do more than ten in the United States. Then again if they release the dates early enough I'll go anywhere to go see them, I just need time to plan ahead. By the way, their final show ever should be in Los Angeles, imo Some more tidbits: Ray Manzarek: [laughs] Yeah, like KISS, or The Who… then we go in the studio in 2008. We have lyric contributions from Michael McClure, Michael C. Ford, Jim Carroll… I asked Warren Zevon to send me something, and he sent me two stanzas before he passed away: "River of madness/Running through L.A." HG: Will Ian be contributing? Ray Manzarek: He might. He’s a busy chap. HG: Will you be performing "The Soft Parade" live? Ray Manzarek: No. HG: Any particular reason? Ray Manzarek: It’s a bitch [laughs]. A lot of woodshedding to just sit down and learn it. Ian would have to learn it. It’s fatiguing. I’m getting lazy [laughs]. Robby will bring it up, and I’m saying "Oh, fuck…" "It’s easy, Ray. I’ll show you." It’s like Senior Wences; [affects Wences’ "Johnny" voice] "Easy for you, not easy for meeee." Robby’s mind is sharp. Has something to do with that IQ… 140… somewhere around there. My wife Dorothy has the same. |
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Jan 20 2007, 10:56 PM
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Nite City ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Lincoln Pk, Chicago Member No.: 9 |
yeah, i caught wind about this possible tour a couple months back, and it is very very exciting to think about. la or new orleans, they both have deep doors connotations - la for obvious reasons, new orleans is interesting because yes, it was the last performance and so much of d21c has been about the end of the doors (ian first heard the doors on 'riders on the storm,' the current name, not playing the end, etc)...although i think la would, in the popular opinion, win hands down. riders is not about popular opinion, never has and still isnt. whatever the case will be, i think we all on some level realize this final chapter in the doors legacy is coming to a close, and i for one am hoping that we finally have a feast of friends while honoring these war-weary artists that have put so much into it and gotten their faces repeatedly pushed down into the mud, and like a phoenix rising from the ashes while giving ian the artistic perspective to continue to push on the cult's legend we celebrate them, the music, and the love.
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Jan 20 2007, 11:36 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE they did 13 in Europe so hopefully they can do more than ten in the United States True, but I think 3 of those were actually in '06, we shall see..Doesn't Tom V manage Thin Lizzy? I think they did a similar tour like 25 years / 25 cities or something a while back.. As long as we're speculating: Robby mentioned recently in an interview that he still thinks John might participate eventually. Apparently John isn't too fond of Ian, and Ian seems to be getting more involved with The Cult. Hmm.. probably just wishful thinking on my part, but I would love to see the 3 original Doors play together*, use The Doors name, maybe Ray can break out the old equipment (I think I read somewhere on the net that Robby was trying to talk Ray into it at some point). Not sure yet how involved John is with touring Tribaljazz. But then again, ahh, whatever. Either way, I'm happy for what they've done, it'll be 5 years this September.. *nothing against Ty. He certainly is miles ahead of D21C's first drummer SC when it comes to playing Doors tunes. QUOTE riders is not about popular opinion That's for sure
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Jan 21 2007, 11:42 AM
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The Whole Thing Started with Rock & Roll Now It's Out Of Control ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Bolton, now Manchester, Lancashire Member No.: 31 |
True, but I think 3 of those were actually in '06, we shall see.. Doesn't Tom V manage Thin Lizzy? I think they did a similar tour like 25 years / 25 cities or something a while back.. As long as we're speculating: Robby mentioned recently in an interview that he still thinks John might participate eventually. Apparently John isn't too fond of Ian, and Ian seems to be getting more involved with The Cult. Hmm.. probably just wishful thinking on my part, but I would love to see the 3 original Doors play together*, use The Doors name, maybe Ray can break out the old equipment (I think I read somewhere on the net that Robby was trying to talk Ray into it at some point). Not sure yet how involved John is with touring Tribaljazz. But then again, ahh, whatever. Either way, I'm happy for what they've done, it'll be 5 years this September.. *nothing against Ty. He certainly is miles ahead of D21C's first drummer SC when it comes to playing Doors tunes. That's for sure Good point about 3 of them being in 06, but technically, the Roundhouse on NYE - I do believe they played that gig in both 2006 and 2007... To be frank, I sincerely hope John isn't involved with touring plans with Ray and Robby. I like what they've built up with Riders, and I would be saddened to see it turned into a wake of some kind, a series of 'tribute evenings' or anything like that. If John's comes back to it all, I suspect the band's days of booking stadium sized arenas would be well and truly over. It would (IMO) turn into a series of nights similar to a VH1 Storytellers night, and the only way to get tickets would be a strong, deep and personal relationship with either The Doors or a significant shareholder of Ticketmaster... Just my miserable two cents worth!!! PK |
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Jan 21 2007, 03:16 PM
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The Whole Thing Started with Rock & Roll Now It's Out Of Control ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 405 Joined: 31-October 05 From: 1005 N. La Cienega Ave #32 Member No.: 66 |
Just the tone of this interview leads me to believe that a lot of what was said is off the cuff, not necessarily based on stone cold fact. Just my opinion - maybe a selfish wish that we get more than (10) dates in the US.
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Jan 21 2007, 06:05 PM
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Golden Days Diamond Nights ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,287 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Morrison Hotel Member No.: 18 |
Off the cuff is interesting. Should be fun to watch what they do in the studio in 2008 as it says. They already recorded five or six songs with Ian in May 2005 and Ray does vocals on An American Express so it wouldn't be too difficult to get Ian back in the studio for a few tracks to wrap things up
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Jan 21 2007, 06:09 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 11 |
![]() This is the one I was thinking of. Thin Lizzy 20 years / 20 dates. Bill Young Productions also did the Strange Days Festival poster. |
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Jan 21 2007, 06:21 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 29-October 05 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 48 |
I hope they don't forget about Canada--I'm hoping for a Toronto show.
BTW, didn't Ray recently say something to the effect that he would play as long as his fingers wanted to play? |
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Jan 22 2007, 12:09 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE Good point about 3 of them being in 06, but technically, the Roundhouse on NYE - I do believe they played that gig in both 2006 and 2007... Well, it'll be interesting to see if what Ray is quoted as saying is what actually happens..Maybe 40/40 could just be a rough framework idea for the tour, maybe they will make exceptions! QUOTE BTW, didn't Ray recently say something to the effect that he would play as long as his fingers wanted to play? Yes, I read that too. Even if this IS the last 'tour', I would hope that they can still play occasionally, why stop completely? |
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Jan 22 2007, 11:22 PM
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Nite City ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 990 Joined: 24-October 05 From: USA Member No.: 2 |
This was actually the interview I was talking about a LONG time ago concerning what the Riders plans might be. It just came out way later than I thought it would. Take from it what you will...
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Jan 23 2007, 02:38 AM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 14 |
To be frank, I sincerely hope John isn't involved with touring plans with Ray and Robby. I like what they've built up with Riders, and I would be saddened to see it turned into a wake of some kind, a series of 'tribute evenings' or anything like that. If John's comes back to it all, I suspect the band's days of booking stadium sized arenas would be well and truly over. It would (IMO) turn into a series of nights similar to a VH1 Storytellers night, and the only way to get tickets would be a strong, deep and personal relationship with either The Doors or a significant shareholder of Ticketmaster... Just my miserable two cents worth!!! PK I couldn't agree more. Ty and Ian are every bit the draw for me that Ray and Robby are. |
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Jan 23 2007, 11:57 AM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 11 |
I couldn't agree more. Ty and Ian are every bit the draw for me that Ray and Robby are. OK. Not me, but that's cool; Ty and Ian are great, but as a Doors fan first, Ray and Robby are THE main attraction. I guess my comments about wanting to see the 3 of them jam together were mainly inspired by the thoughts that Riders may be doing their last tour anyway (based on Ray's interview, Ian's previous comments about '07 being the logical conclusion, etc) and rather than Nothing, maybe they COULD go on eventually and do something with John.. However, that being said, my love for The Doors music goes waay past the D21C era or anything to do with it. I've ALWAYS wanted to see Ray, Robby and John play live together, for the last 20 years anyway, and if the 3 of them can sort out their differences long enough to perform together, I'd love to be in the audience. |
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Jan 23 2007, 01:29 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 22-August 06 From: Indiana Member No.: 592 |
OK. Not me, but that's cool; Ty and Ian are great, but as a Doors fan first, Ray and Robby are THE main attraction. I guess my comments about wanting to see the 3 of them jam together were mainly inspired by the thoughts that Riders may be doing their last tour anyway (based on Ray's interview, Ian's previous comments about '07 being the logical conclusion, etc) and rather than Nothing, maybe they COULD go on eventually and do something with John.. However, that being said, my love for The Doors music goes waay past the D21C era or anything to do with it. I've ALWAYS wanted to see Ray, Robby and John play live together, for the last 20 years anyway, and if the 3 of them can sort out their differences long enough to perform together, I'd love to be in the audience. I agree. I would LOVE to see the 3 original Doors and if they can mend fences, then we should be happy about that. We take things too personally. What happened to them, happened to them and we should pass judgement. It would be great if they can get along again and play together. I love TY, he's done a great job, but in the beginning, they said he was filling in for John and lets see what happens. Personally, I would really like to see this happen. JUst my opinion. Either way....if this is their last tour, I must go. IT will be the end of an era and I"ll be very sad. but thankful I got to see them a few times! |
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Jan 31 2007, 01:57 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 86 |
I don't think Ty would have a problem with John returning, he has full respect of John Densmore and has stated that fact several times. He deserves more credit than he has been givin.
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Jan 31 2007, 02:48 PM
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New Band Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Preston Lancashire Member No.: 660 |
I recently had an email reply from Ty Dennis regarding a drum settings question I had sent him.
The email is very pleasant, he thanks me for supporting the band by seeing their show in Manchester and signs off with "See you next time" So read into that what you will.....to me it appears they are intending to carry on touring. This post has been edited by XL5: Jan 31 2007, 02:50 PM |
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Feb 16 2007, 11:04 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 11 |
COol, I was just reading over this thread, and let's see.. as we all know John has since implied interest in possibly performing with Ray and Robby again and Ian has moved on.. if there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that the future's STILL uncertain, far out!
Seriously tho, I think they're all just going with the flow at this point, nothing really set in stone, and only time will tell. |
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Mar 29 2007, 09:29 PM
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Golden Scarab ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 11 |
This is a recent addition to that website I referenced earlier in this thread..
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Mar 29 2007, 09:39 PM
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New Band Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 5-November 05 From: Lincoln, NE Member No.: 133 |
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Mar 29 2007, 09:41 PM
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Golden Days Diamond Nights ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,287 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Morrison Hotel Member No.: 18 |
sweet, I like that promo. Hopefully they can do more shows for more years now, after all they don't have to worry about working around Ian's schedule
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