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 Aug 4 2006, 10:19 PM
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Golden Scarab  Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 15-December 05 Member No.: 240  |
QUOTE(universalmind1123 @ Jul 31 2006, 10:39 PM)  it was "storytellers." pretty cool. i saw PJ with tom petty at summerfest in milwaukee last month. one of the absolute greatest shows i've ever seen. mind-blowing. I love Pearl Jam, and I'm glad to see them doing well! I think it's great how some of the more "mature" bands are making comebacks (not that they've all really gone anywhere, just nice to see them back in the public eye and doing live shows)- and how the young kids today love them like they are something new. A student of mine went to see Journey and Def Lepard a few weeks ago. It's awesome to see how the older and not so old bands have such an impact on the younger kids. Kinda like the Doors do. Which in a round about way speaks of the importance of Riders on the Storm. Young kids can only buy so many albums, ya know? There's nothing like a live performance! 
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Aug 5 2006, 07:31 PM
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Nite City Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Lincoln Pk, Chicago Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE(PeaceFrog2 @ Aug 4 2006, 05:19 PM) I love Pearl Jam, and I'm glad to see them doing well! I think it's great how some of the more "mature" bands are making comebacks (not that they've all really gone anywhere, just nice to see them back in the public eye and doing live shows)- and how the young kids today love them like they are something new. A student of mine went to see Journey and Def Lepard a few weeks ago. It's awesome to see how the older and not so old bands have such an impact on the younger kids. Kinda like the Doors do. Which in a round about way speaks of the importance of Riders on the Storm. Young kids can only buy so many albums, ya know? There's nothing like a live performance! well said. 
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Aug 5 2006, 07:40 PM
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Nite City Group: Members Posts: 845 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Lincoln Pk, Chicago Member No.: 9 |
jampol, in response to a question regarding whether or not there is/will be any positive news about it airing:
"I have no idea, as it was never a management issue, but rather a synch licensing issue between the Estates, Densmore and ROTS - but I believe this is a dead issue long since past." |
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Aug 5 2006, 08:09 PM
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*IAN ASTBURY Sep. 3/2002--Feb. 13/2007* Group: Members Posts: 1,143 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Northeastern Pa. Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE(universalmind1123 @ Aug 5 2006, 03:40 PM) jampol, in response to a question regarding whether or not there is/will be any positive news about it airing: "I have no idea, as it was never a management issue, but rather a synch licensing issue between the Estates, Densmore and ROTS - but I believe this is a dead issue long since past." 
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Aug 5 2006, 09:07 PM
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Golden Days Diamond Nights Group: Moderators Posts: 1,287 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Morrison Hotel Member No.: 18 |
That's not true...Vh1 wants to air this show, and Ray and Robby have appealed the court ruling so dead? no
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Aug 5 2006, 09:09 PM
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*IAN ASTBURY Sep. 3/2002--Feb. 13/2007* Group: Members Posts: 1,143 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Northeastern Pa. Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE(Jimbo @ Aug 5 2006, 05:07 PM) That's not true...Vh1 wants to air this show, and Ray and Robby have appealed the court ruling so dead? no 
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Aug 5 2006, 09:54 PM
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Golden Scarab Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 10 |
The Estates and John either give permission or they don't, the appeal wouldn't stop anything.
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Aug 5 2006, 11:12 PM
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Golden Days Diamond Nights Group: Moderators Posts: 1,287 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Morrison Hotel Member No.: 18 |
well VH1 says it will air in time, maybe portions of it? Who Do You Love, Back Door Man, Alabama Song, War, are all covers afterall. By the way, today's the one night anniversairy of that magical evening
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Aug 6 2006, 12:26 AM
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*IAN ASTBURY Sep. 3/2002--Feb. 13/2007* Group: Members Posts: 1,143 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Northeastern Pa. Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE(Jimbo @ Aug 5 2006, 07:12 PM) well VH1 says it will air in time, maybe portions of it? Who Do You Love, Back Door Man, Alabama Song, War, are all covers afterall. By the way, today's the one night anniversairy of that magical evening  I just returned Jimbo from a one year Anniversary Celebration that me and my husband just had.....of "The Doors and VH1 Decades Rock Live" yes...it was a very magical evening!!! I am so glad that we had the chance to witness and be apart of it......very privilaged indeed! Peace,M-B Lovin it...all night long! |
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Aug 9 2006, 02:48 AM
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Golden Scarab Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 14 |
Air the damn show. I'm tired of seeing the Heart and Elvis Costello episodes!
I can't blame John though. I'd feel bummed out if I opted out of a kick ass band that over a million people have enjoyed all over the world. This post has been edited by -AK: Aug 9 2006, 02:50 AM |
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Aug 9 2006, 03:05 AM
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Golden Days Diamond Nights Group: Moderators Posts: 1,287 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Morrison Hotel Member No.: 18 |
QUOTE(-AK @ Aug 8 2006, 10:48 PM) Air the damn show. I'm tired of seeing the Heart and Elvis Costello episodes! I can't blame John though. I'd feel bummed out if I opted out of a kick ass band that over a million people have enjoyed all over the world. banned! 
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Aug 9 2006, 03:15 AM
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Golden Days Diamond Nights Group: Moderators Posts: 1,287 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Morrison Hotel Member No.: 18 |
http://www.decadesrocklive.com/commercials/
Scroll down and you can watch the commerical used to promote the D21C concert |
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Aug 9 2006, 05:37 AM
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*IAN ASTBURY Sep. 3/2002--Feb. 13/2007* Group: Members Posts: 1,143 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Northeastern Pa. Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE(Jimbo @ Aug 8 2006, 11:15 PM) http://www.decadesrocklive.com/commercials/ Scroll down and you can watch the commerical used to promote the D21C concert  VERY nice find...Jimbo.....thanks for sharring it with us...........for all of us who was privilaged to be there this is prooff that we all didn't have a mass hallucination that fine night.Keep up the great work of providing and finding the truth for us all to share in this legacy called "The Doors" I am very proud of you! Peace,M-B |
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Aug 10 2006, 05:52 AM
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Golden Scarab Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 15-December 05 Member No.: 240 |
QUOTE(jim4371 @ Aug 5 2006, 04:54 PM) The Estates and John either give permission or they don't, the appeal wouldn't stop anything. Just asking because I'm not sure - but why not? Wouldn't the appeal change the ruling and allow them to play as some group with the word "The Doors" in the title?? My understanding of this is that anyone can play Doors songs - just this group couldn't use "The Doors" in their title. So, if that's overturned, wouldn't it then be acceptable??  
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 Aug 10 2006, 05:59 AM
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*IAN ASTBURY Sep. 3/2002--Feb. 13/2007* Group: Members Posts: 1,143 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Northeastern Pa. Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE(PeaceFrog2 @ Aug 10 2006, 01:52 AM) Just asking because I'm not sure, and I'm not trying to stir up trouble - but why not? Wouldn't the ruling allow them to play as some group with the word "The Doors" in the title, so then it would be o.k.?? My understanding of this is that anyone can play Doors songs - just this group couldn't use "The Doors" in their title. So, if that's overturned, wouldn't it then be acceptable?? Hi there PeaceFrog2, I would like to take this time to welcome you to the boards...I have seen you around for awhile....and i am so sorry that i am just catching up to say welcome and Hi...glad to have you here....it a whole convoluded story of why Riders On The Storm /D21C's "the Doors VH1 Decades Rock Live...Primear show canNOT be shown......it was suppose to be shown on October 8th, 2005...but NEVER as of yet hit the air waves........will sombody please take over for me and continue this unbelievable saga.....as I just can't continue........I am yet again overwhelmed with the bizarre facts..........sorry...... Peace, M-B
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Aug 11 2006, 03:26 PM
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Golden Scarab Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 27-October 05 Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE(PeaceFrog2 @ Aug 10 2006, 12:52 AM) Just asking because I'm not sure - but why not? Wouldn't the appeal change the ruling and allow them to play as some group with the word "The Doors" in the title?? My understanding of this is that anyone can play Doors songs - just this group couldn't use "The Doors" in their title. So, if that's overturned, wouldn't it then be acceptable?? He and the estates still don't have to allow them to use the songs. |
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Sep 29 2006, 12:42 AM
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Golden Scarab Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 15-December 05 Member No.: 240 |
QUOTE(jim4371 @ Aug 11 2006, 10:26 AM) He and the estates still don't have to allow them to use the songs. "Allow" them how? Live or recorded? Just wondering why I could perform LMF live, but they can't? Or is it because it was "recorded"?? |
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 Sep 29 2006, 03:31 PM
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The Whole Thing Started with Rock & Roll Now It's Out Of Control Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Bolton, now Manchester, Lancashire Member No.: 31 |
QUOTE(PeaceFrog2 @ Sep 29 2006, 01:42 AM) "Allow" them how? Live or recorded? Just wondering why I could perform LMF live, but they can't? Or is it because it was "recorded"?? Don't know if you've heard of them (because I hadn't until this mess came along); there's something called a 'sync licence' which licenses musicians or in this case VH1 to synchronise the sound and the image of a band performing. VH1 needs a sync licence from The Doors as the songs in question are The Doors' songs. The Doors of course = Jim, Ray, Robby John. John will not grant his authorisation for a sync licence, because Ray and Robby did a terrible thing. After having founded The Doors, played in The Doors, written and produced The Doors' music, they decided to use the words 'The Doors' to advertise a concert where they played these songs they helped to create, write, choreograph and perform back in the 60's and 70's. Those irresponsible bastards! Until John provides his authorisation, then no movement on the VH1 show, as well as a DVD from an apparently amazing concert in Argentina, again because the band name, 'The Doors of the 21st Century,' which is what the band were called at the time, had the words 'The Doors' in it. Any set of musicans can use the words 'The Doors' in their band name if they so decide. Except two. Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger, because they were actually part of The Doors. It's sick! John Densmore, whose integrity I don't doubt, has nonetheless managed to do the unbelievable - he has stopped live music from being heard. The worst possible outcome from misguided liberal roots - fascism. Incidental, accidental fascism. But still fascism. PK Hope that helps Mary-Beth - it pisses me off just to write it all down again too! Don't get me wrong, I'm glad people are still asking, but it drives me nuts - this crazy situation. The Doors will never know what it is like NOT to be persecuted. But now it's Doors persecuting Doors. Sickening. |
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Sep 29 2006, 11:24 PM
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*IAN ASTBURY Sep. 3/2002--Feb. 13/2007* Group: Members Posts: 1,143 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Northeastern Pa. Member No.: 16 |
QUOTE(PK The First @ Sep 29 2006, 11:31 AM) Don't know if you've heard of them (because I hadn't until this mess came along); there's something called a 'sync licence' which licenses musicians or in this case VH1 to synchronise the sound and the image of a band performing. VH1 needs a sync licence from The Doors as the songs in question are The Doors' songs. The Doors of course = Jim, Ray, Robby John. John will not grant his authorisation for a sync licence, because Ray and Robby did a terrible thing. After having founded The Doors, played in The Doors, written and produced The Doors' music, they decided to use the words 'The Doors' to advertise a concert where they played these songs they helped to create, write, choreograph and perform back in the 60's and 70's. Those irresponsible bastards! Until John provides his authorisation, then no movement on the VH1 show, as well as a DVD from an apparently amazing concert in Argentina, again because the band name, 'The Doors of the 21st Century,' which is what the band were called at the time, had the words 'The Doors' in it. Any set of musicans can use the words 'The Doors' in their band name if they so decide. Except two. Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger, because they were actually part of The Doors. It's sick! John Densmore, whose integrity I don't doubt, has nonetheless managed to do the unbelievable - he has stopped live music from being heard. The worst possible outcome from misguided liberal roots - fascism. Incidental, accidental fascism. But still fascism. PK Hope that helps Mary-Beth - it pisses me off just to write it all down again too! Don't get me wrong, I'm glad people are still asking, but it drives me nuts - this crazy situation. The Doors will never know what it is like NOT to be persecuted. But now it's Doors persecuting Doors. Sickening. Hi PK,So very nice to see you here again...always such a pleasure...and you are so very articulate and informative with your responses...thank-you so much for setting the record straight..yet once again and answering this kind gentlemens question. Peace, M-B |
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Oct 1 2006, 06:21 AM
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New Band Member Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 1-October 06 From: fl Member No.: 642 |
I was super upset that this didnt air on vh1, but when i stayed at the taj about 2 weeks ago i seen this on tv which made me smile with a few great memories of that night. sorry the audio is low maybe next time i am down there i can get a better clip. i recorded/uploaded this thinking of this topic right here heh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEtnYStHr7Y also note this was all they played, it played in a loop with other acts. This post has been edited by nyc3: Oct 1 2006, 06:25 AM |
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